March 11, 1960

PRIVILEGE

MR. MARTINEAU REFERENCE TO REMARKS IN DEBATE ON MARCH 10

PC

Paul Raymond Martineau (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Paul Martineau (Parliameniary Secretary to the Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, on a matter of privilege, yesterday the hon. member for Gatineau (Mr. Leduc) made a speech in this house. He referred in particular to the constituency of Pontiac-Temis-camingue, which I represent, and to one polling division in that constituency where he stated that a large number of Indian voters who were on the 1958 voters' list had not exercised their right of franchise. He stated that the reason they had not done so was that on election day they were in no condition to vote due to the fact-to use the hon. member's own words-that they had been plied with liquor. This is reported at page 1934 of yesterday's Hansard.

Mr. Speaker, this is clearly a reflection on certain constituents in my riding and is also clearly a reflection on my honour as a member of this house. I wish to state in unequivocal terms that the words used by the hon. member for Gatineau do not represent the facts as they are known to me. I therefore deny that I or any of my agents or anybody for whom I may have had any responsibility ever did prevent, through liquor or by any other means, anybody in my constituency from exercising their franchise.

It is true that there were a large number of voters on the list who did not vote. The reason was that when the enumeration was taken there were a number of bush workers who did not live at Forbes Depot but who happened to be there and whose names were included on the voters' list. When election time came many of them had left that neighbourhood because the bush operations were terminated, and they probably voted elsewhere in my constituency or in neighbouring constituencies.

I wish to repeat with emphasis that never did I prevent anyone from voting. Everyone was encouraged to vote. That was our set policy, and if there were voters who did not vote it did not spring from any act on my part. Moreover, I resent the implication made on my constituents.

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I take it the hon. member is satisfied with having made his explanation, and that he was not in the house at the time the statement was made or he would have made his explanation at that time. I was in the chair and heard the statement, but I did not take from what was said any identification of the parliamentary secretary with what was said by the hon. member for Gatineau. However, if he understood that there was an insinuation against himself, he has now made his explanation and perhaps the hon. member whose statement is complained of wishes to say something before the matter is closed.

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LIB

Rodolphe Leduc

Liberal

Mr. Rodolphe Leduc (Gatineau):

Mr. Speaker, I have heard what the hon. member for Pontiac-Temiscamingue (Mr. Martineau) has just said. I have not sought to accuse either the elected member or the defeated candidate. I simply noted the fact that, as I said, the Indians were served intoxicating beverages and that many of them were unable to vote because they were in no condition to get to the polls. That is what I said.

I said nothing against the member for Pontiac-Temiscamingue. There were two candidates in that election. I did not say it was the member for Pontiac-Temiscamingue, nor did I say that it was the defeated candidate, who supplied the liquor. The fact remains however, that a few days before the elections, the Indians started drinking liquor that was surely supplied by someone.

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PC

Paul Raymond Martineau (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Martineau:

Mr. Speaker, may I be allowed a word in this matter.

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

There is no question before the house for debate. The hon. member has made his position clear. Unless the hon. member wishes to pursue the matter by moving some resolution I think the matter might be dropped at this point.

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PC

Paul Raymond Martineau (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Martineau:

On a point of order, in the statement by my hon. friend from Gatineau there was referred to two candidates. He asked a question, "Did the Liberals vote?" and he replied, "No". Therefore the implication becomes clear, and that is why I take exception to it.

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Is the hon. member raising another matter of privilege, or is he referring to yesterday's statement?

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Inquiries of the Ministry

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PC

Paul Raymond Martineau (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Mariineau:

I am still referring to yesterday's statement.

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MISCELLANEOUS PRIVATE BILLS


Fourth report of standing committee on miscellaneous private bills-Mr. McCleave.


CANADA COUNCIL

MOTION TO REFER REPORT TO PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE


On the order: Government notices of motion: March 9-The Prime Minister-The following proposed motion:-That the report of the Canada council for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1959, laid before the house on July 10, 1959, be referred to the standing committee on public accounts in order to provide for a review thereof pursuant to section 23 of the Canada Council Act.


PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Pursuant to section 2 of standing order 21 this notice of motion is transferred to and ordered for consideration under government orders at the next sitting of the house.

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Subtopic:   MOTION TO REFER REPORT TO PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE
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INTERNATIONAL TRADE FAIR

REPORTED INADEQUATE PREPARATION OF


Canada's petition On the orders of the day:


LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Lionel Chevrier (Laurier):

May I direct a question to the Prime Minister. Has the Prime Minister seen the statement by the mayor of the city of Montreal that if Canada's petition to the bureau of international exhibitions had been properly prepared, Canada and Montreal would have had the fair? Has he any comment to make thereon?

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March 11, 1960