February 25, 1959

HEATH STEELE MINES LIMITED, NEWCASTLE, N.B.

LIB

Mr. McWilliam

Liberal

1. Is the Heath Steele Mines Limited, Newcastle, New Brunswick, making regular payments under the guaranteed minimum annual freight revenue, to the Canadian National Railways or the federal government, during their shut-down period, for the Canadian National Railways branch line from Bar-tibog, New Brunswick, to the site of the company's mine at Little River, Northumberland county, New Brunswick?

2. What is the total amount of money paid to date under this guarantee?

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PC

George Harris Hees (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George H. Hees (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, when the bill

authorizing the branch line in question was before the house, and also the standing committee on railways, canals and telegraph lines, in 1956, a general explanation was given to the effect that Heath Steele Mines Limited had agreed to the movement of 450,000 tons of concentrates within the first six-year period of operation, with the stipulation that if there was a deficiency under 75,000 tons of ore in any year, the railway would debit the mining company with the amount of the deficiency, subject to adjustment if in the aggregate 450,000 tons are delivered to the railway over the six-year period.

The settlement for the traffic deficiency for the first year of operation is in progress. I should say, however, that when the bill was before the standing committee in 1956 it was agreed by the committee that all the details of the agreement between the mining company and the railway should not be included in the proceedings, as it was felt that it was not in the interests of the development of the Canadian National Railways to disclose the details of these guaranty agreements.

Starred Questions

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PROPOSED CAUSEWAY, NEW BRUNSWICK-PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND

LIB

Mr. McWilliam

Liberal

1. Has a survey of the New Brunswick-Prince Edward Island proposed causeway been undertaken?

2. If so, has enough data been compiled to determine the feasibility of this project?

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PC

Howard Charles Green (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Howard C. Green (Minister of Public Works):

The answers to the questions asked by the hon. member for Northumberland-Miramichi are as follows:

1. Yes.

2. No.

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VISIT TO YUKON BY LAMBTON WEST MEMBER

LIB

Mr. Robichaud

Liberal

1. Was the member for Lambton West authorized to make a visit to the Yukon and Northwest Territories, during the month of September, 1958?

2. If so, on what authority was this visit authorized?

3. Were other members of parliament invited to take part on this trip?

4. What were the names and official capacity of other persons, if any, participating in this trip?

5. What was the total amount of expenses involved and for whom were expenses paid?

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PC

Francis Alvin George Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Alvin Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources):

Mr. Speaker, I have the answer to this question here, but in view of its length I would request that it be made an order for return.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Lionel Chevrier (Laurier):

Mr. Speaker, the purpose of questions being starred is in order to get the information required from time to time. I think the house is entitled to have this information.

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Donald Methuen Fleming (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming (Eglinlon):

Will you not get

it through an order for return?

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PC

Francis Alvin George Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle):

If the hon.

member wants it immediately I could ask for the unanimous permission of the house to have it printed in Hansard.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

That is quite satisfactory.

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PC

Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Is the minister asking leave of the house for that purpose?

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PC

Francis Alvin George Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Qu'Appelle):

Yes, Mr. Speaker.

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Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Has the minister the consent of the house to have this answer printed as an appendix to Hansard of today?

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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

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Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

No, Mr. Speaker; I thought the understanding was that it be printed in Hansard in the usual way, not as an appendix.

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Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

Does the house give unanimous consent to having the answer printed at this point in Hansard?

Starred Questions

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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

(Editor's note: The answers referred to above are as follows:)

1. Yes. In his capacity as chairman of the standing committee on mines, forests and waters the hon. member for Lambton West was requested to represent the Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources for a speech to the board of trade in Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, and in opening the new school and hostel at Fort McPherson, Northwest Territories.

2. Treasury board.

3. Yes. The hon. member for Yukon was invited to be present for the engagement in Whitehorse and to accompany the trip in the examination of the route for the proposed road from Dawson to Eagle Plain in the Yukon Territory. The member of parliament for Mackenzie River was invited to be present for the opening of the hostel and school at Fort McPherson but declined because of a commitment in New York.

4. The persons who participated in the entire trip were:

J. W. Murphy, member of parliament for Lambton West; R. G. Robertson, deputy minister of northern affairs and national resources; G. B. Williams, chief engineer, development engineering branch, Department of Public Works.

For the portion of the trip in the Yukon also present were: Erik Nielsen, member of parliament for the Yukon, F. H. Collins, commissioner of the Yukon Territory, K. Baker, chief engineer, Yukon Territory, N. Gritzuk, in charge of transportation for Western Minerals in Eagle Plain oil explorations.

Present for the portion of the trip from Whitehorse to Yellowknife were: V. Bull and Miss E. Neiszner of station CKCK-TV, Regina, Saskatchewan, who at a cost to the department of only $160 for two prints made the film "Northern Giant" which was shown to members of the committee on mines, forests and waters on February 17 last.

Present for the portion of the trip from Fort McPherson to Yellowknife were: C. Merrill, district administrator, Mackenzie district, W. G. Booth, chief superintendent of schools for the Mackenzie district.

5. The total expenses by the government for aircraft chartered for the trip were $2,515.82.

Mr. Gritzuk, on behalf of Western Minerals, chartered the aircraft which carried him on the entire part of the trip he was on. It also carried Mr. Robertson and Mr. Williams for the actual route examination,

and carried Messrs. Nielsen, Collins and Baker on the return portion of the trip from Fort McPherson to Whitehorse.

Personal expenses paid by the government

were:

Mr. Murphy $406.50

Mr. Robertson 967.56

Mr. Williams 556.10

Mr. Merrill 146.95

Mr. Booth 15.40

(Note: Expenses for Mr. Robertson and Mr. Williams include additional expenses for a road inspection trip in Banff and Jasper national parks and, in the case of Mr. Robertson, further expenses for visits to Fort Smith and Yellowknife, Northwest Territories. Mr. Merrill's expenses include transportation from Fort Smith to Yellowknife and return in order to join the party. Mr. Booth had no expenses for transportation.)

No personal expenses were paid by the government of Canada for any other person present on the trip.

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February 25, 1959