August 13, 1958

STARRED QUESTIONS

GEORGE P. LEBLANC ALEX P. BOUDREAU

LIB

Mr. Pickersgill

Liberal

1. Were George P. LeBlanc and Alex P. Boudreau dismissed from the Cape Breton Highlands national park effective June 10, 1958?

2. How long had each of these employees been employed by the national park?

3. What was the reason for dismissal in each case?

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   GEORGE P. LEBLANC ALEX P. BOUDREAU
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PC

Francis Alvin George Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Alvin Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources):

Stand.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   GEORGE P. LEBLANC ALEX P. BOUDREAU
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Hon. J. W. Pickersgill (Bonavisia-Twil-lingate):

On a question of privilege, Mr. Speaker, these questions have been on the order paper for a very long time. They require only factual information, and factual information which is desired before the minister's estimates come up. Surely the minister is now in a position to answer.

Question stands.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   GEORGE P. LEBLANC ALEX P. BOUDREAU
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STAFF DISMISSALS, CAPE BRETON HIGHLANDS NATIONAL PARK

LIB

Mr. Pickersgill

Liberal

1. Were John A. MacLellan, Lester Fraser, Dave Fraser and George MacLean dismissed from the Cape Breton Highlands national park effective June 27, 1958?

2. How long had each of these employees been employed by the national park?

3. What was the reason for dismissal in each case?

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   STAFF DISMISSALS, CAPE BRETON HIGHLANDS NATIONAL PARK
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PC

Francis Alvin George Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Alvin Hamilton (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources):

The answer to the first question is no. The men listed above are still working at the park.

The answer to the second question is as follows: John A. MacLellan, continuously

employed from April 26, 1955; Lester Fraser, continuously employed from October, 1955; Dave Fraser, continuously employed from January 3, 1956; George MacLean, continuously employed from May 1, 1952.

Question No. 3 is not applicable.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   STAFF DISMISSALS, CAPE BRETON HIGHLANDS NATIONAL PARK
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"CANADIAN ECONOMIC OUTLOOK, 1958"

CCF

Mr. Fisher

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

1. Was a report prepared by officials in the Department of Trade and Commerce entitled "The Canadian Economic Outlook, 1958"?

2. If so, how many copies, and to what ministers and government officials was it circulated?

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   "CANADIAN ECONOMIC OUTLOOK, 1958"
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PC

Gordon Minto Churchill (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Gordon Churchill (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

The answer to the first question is yes. The answer to the second question is that this report was of a confidential nature and the information requested concerning its distribution is also confidential.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   "CANADIAN ECONOMIC OUTLOOK, 1958"
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QUESTION PASSED AS ORDER FOR RETURN

CCF

Mr. Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

1. What was the original cost of construction of the canals, locks and other facilities that comprise the main route system of canals along the St. Lawrence river and through the great lakes, giving the years in which such expenditures were made and listing the expenditures by project?

2. What was the cost of modifications made from time to time to these facilities, giving the year in which such expenditures were made and listing the expenditures by project?

3. What are the estimated total present and proposed expenditures by the Canadian government on the St. Lawrence seaway, listing the expenditures by project?

4. What are the estimated total present and proposed expenditures by the United States government on the St. Lawrence seaway, listing the expenditures by project?

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   QUESTION PASSED AS ORDER FOR RETURN
Sub-subtopic:   ST. LAWRENCE RIVER-GREAT LAKES COST OF TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES
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CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAMSHIPS


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Lionel Chevrier (Laurier):

May I

direct a question to the Minister of Transport. The morning press contains a statement that a Toronto firm, Aura Shipping Company, last night claimed that it made a last minute offer of $3 million for the ships of Canadian National Steamships. "Transport Minister Hees said in Ottawa that he had never heard from, or of, this firm. He did not know of any letter which Mark Rashkis, president of Aura Leasing Company, said the firm had received from him." The questions I should like to ask are whether or not this firm did make an offer, what the offer was, and why it was rejected.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAMSHIPS
Sub-subtopic:   REPORTED OFFER TO PURCHASE VESSELS BY AURA SHIPPING COMPANY
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George Harris Hees (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George H. Hees (Minister of Transport):

I expected that the hon. member would be asking this identical question, so I have a statement I am prepared to make about it.

In November of 1957 an individual signing on behalf of Aura Shipping Company, but

Inquiries of the Ministry using the letterhead of Aurora Leasing Corporation with a Toronto address, wrote to Canadian National Steamships expressing interest in the acquisition of these vessels. They were informed at that time that the ships were not then for sale. The same individual addressed a further letter to the Canadian National in May, again expressing interest. A copy of this letter was also sent to me and an acknowledgment was sent from my office. Subsequently a decision was reached to put these vessels up for sale, and when the Canadian National issued its public advertisement inviting tenders, a copy of this notice was specifically sent to Aurora Leasing Corporation, along with a number of other companies which had indicated interest in possible purchase.

Officials of the Canadian National informed me that in response to this invitation to tender no reply was ever received by Canadian National Steamships from either Aura Shipping Company or Aurora Leasing Corporation, nor did any official of the company come to discuss the matter with officials of Canadian National Steamships concerned with this matter.

However, on July 7 the same individual wrote me again, indicating interest in this matter if the government would be prepared to pay a subsidy for operation of the service. In my reply, dated July 23, I stated that it was not the policy of the government to subsidize vessels in this trade, but that if the company were interested in purchase they should contact Mr. Bromley, of Canadian National (West Indies) Steamships, in Montreal, as the disposal of the ships was being left in the hands of the company. There is no record of any attempt to get in touch with Canadian National Steamships subsequent to this.

As regards the reported offer of $3 million from this company, as of this morning a letter was received by my department from the Aurora company asking if the government would be prepared to consider such a sum, but containing no other details. My announcement of the sale of these vessels was made in this house yesterday morning, August 12. This further letter from the Aurora corporation was dated August 12, and the envelope containing it, which I have here with me, was stamped at 9.30 p.m. in Toronto. Hon. members may, I think, draw their own conclusions from this.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAMSHIPS
Sub-subtopic:   REPORTED OFFER TO PURCHASE VESSELS BY AURA SHIPPING COMPANY
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAMSHIPS
Sub-subtopic:   REPORTED OFFER TO PURCHASE VESSELS BY AURA SHIPPING COMPANY
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

May I ask a supplementary question after all that applause, and it is this. Did the minister receive an offer of $5 million from this firm in Toronto?

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAMSHIPS
Sub-subtopic:   REPORTED OFFER TO PURCHASE VESSELS BY AURA SHIPPING COMPANY
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PC

George Harris Hees (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hees:

I would repeat that no specific offer was ever made to the Canadian National by this company in response to the Canadian National invitation to tender which was sent to them. However, I understand that what this company contemplated in any case was not a genuine purchase, but rather an arrangement under which the company would purchase these vessels, the government would then lease them from the company, and would be required to underwrite the whole project financially, not only by agreeing to lease the vessels but also by agreeing to pay a substantial subsidy for their operation.

Topic:   STARRED QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL STEAMSHIPS
Sub-subtopic:   REPORTED OFFER TO PURCHASE VESSELS BY AURA SHIPPING COMPANY
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August 13, 1958