January 24, 1958

LIB

Walter Adam Tucker

Liberal

Mr. W. A. Tucker (Roslhsrn):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Secretary of State for External Affairs referring to increased economic co-operation among the members of NATO. I should like to ask him to give the house evidence of any concrete progress toward greater economic co-operation among NATO members pursuant to the decision taken at the recent NATO conference.

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO INCREASED
Subtopic:   ECONOMIC CO-OPERATION
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PC

Sidney Earle Smith (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Sidney E. Smith (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

Mr. Speaker, I can

assure the hon. member and the house that those resolutions which were adopted at the NATO council meeting in December are now being studied by the permanent delegates to the council.

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO INCREASED
Subtopic:   ECONOMIC CO-OPERATION
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LIB

Walter Adam Tucker

Liberal

Mr. Tucker:

A supplementary question. Has the Canadian government given any definite instructions to its representative on the permanent council in regard to the position we think should be taken and the steps that should be taken to bring about greater economic co-operation?

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO INCREASED
Subtopic:   ECONOMIC CO-OPERATION
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PC

Sidney Earle Smith (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Smith (Hastings-Frontenac):

Mr. Speaker, we are in close communication with our representative there, Mr. Dana Wilgress, and I am not in a position to say what our view would be with respect to certain matters which are under discussion in the council at the present time.

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO INCREASED
Subtopic:   ECONOMIC CO-OPERATION
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COLOMBO PLAN

TABLING OF SIXTH ANNUAL


On the orders of the day:


PC

Sidney Earle Smith (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Sidney E. Smith (Secretary of State for External Affairs):

With your permission, Mr. Speaker, I would like to take this opportunity to table copies of the sixth annual report of the consultative committee of the Colombo plan, which was recently released. This is the report prepared at the meeting of the committee held in Saigon, Viet Nam, from October 21 to October 24, 1957.

You will recall, Mr. Speaker, that my colleague, the hon. member for St. John's West (Mr. Browne), headed the Canadian delegation on this occasion.

Topic:   COLOMBO PLAN
Subtopic:   TABLING OF SIXTH ANNUAL
Sub-subtopic:   REPORT OF CONSULTATIVE COMMITTEE
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NATIONAL DEFENCE

U.S.-CANADA-JOINT AIR DEFENCE COMMAND


On the orders of the day:


LIB

William James Henderson

Liberal

Mr. W. J. Henderson (Kingston):

May I

direct a question to the Minister of National Defence. Has a formal agreement between the United States and Canada with respect to NORAD been completed to date?

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   U.S.-CANADA-JOINT AIR DEFENCE COMMAND
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. G. R. Pearkes (Minister of National Defence):

Mr. Speaker, it was only the day before yesterday that the Secretary of State for External Affairs gave an answer to the Leader of the Opposition in which he advised that the note had not been concluded. He also outlined the progress which was being made, and informed the house that the negotiations were being carried on through normal diplomatic channels. I believe it is unrealistic to think that there could have been a change in that situation in the last 48 hours.

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   U.S.-CANADA-JOINT AIR DEFENCE COMMAND
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LIB

George Carlyle Marler

Liberal

Mr. Marler:

But the Conservative government moves so fast.

Topic:   NATIONAL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   U.S.-CANADA-JOINT AIR DEFENCE COMMAND
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INQUIRY AS TO BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EXPERIMENTS


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Colin Cameron

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Colin Cameron (Nanaimo):

Mr. Speaker,

I wish to direct a question to the Minister of National Defence arising out of the answer he gave to my colleague from Port Arthur, as reported on page 3595 of Hansard of Wednesday, January 22, in which he informed the house that biological warfare experiments are 96698-2364

Inquiries of the Ministry now taking place at Sufheld, Alberta, conducted by Canadian scientists in co-operation with United States scientists.

The question I should like to ask the minister is how such action on the part of the Canadian government is consistent with the fact that Canada was a signatory to the antibiological warfare protocol of Geneva to which we deposed our adherence on September 31, 1951; and in view of the fact that in 1953 a proposal was made in the United Nations that the two major nations which had not signed this protocol should do so, which indicates that this protocol is still binding on signatories, I wonder how the Canadian government can explain why the department is engaged in these experiments.

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EXPERIMENTS
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. G. R. Pearkes (Minisier of National Defence):

Yes, Mr. Speaker. The experiments that are being carried on at Suffield, Alberta and Grosse lie, Quebec, are purely defensive in nature; in other words the department is carrying out experiments to see how the effect of an attack on this country by an enemy using biological weapons could be limited so the spread of diseases which might be stimulated by enemy action could be restricted. The experiments have also been most helpful to various branches of agriculture in showing how the spread of disease can be limited in peacetime.

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EXPERIMENTS
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CCF

Colin Cameron

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Cameron:

May I ask a supplementary question. How is it that these experiments are being carried out by the Department of National Defence and not by the Department of National Health and Welfare or the Department of Agriculture? I cannot for the life of me see it. Would the minister explain to me how the program differs in any way from the program of the Department of National Health and Welfare for the control of epidemics?

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EXPERIMENTS
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes (Minister of National Defence)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

This is the Department of National Defence, and we consider every means of defending this country against possible enemy action.

(Translation):

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO BIOLOGICAL WARFARE EXPERIMENTS
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January 24, 1958