January 23, 1958

OPINION BROADCASTS


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, this would be a question for the minister through whom the

Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reports to parliament, but in his absence may I direct it to the Prime Minister. My question is based on the very strong stand taken last year by the Prime Minister, the Minister of Finance and others-

-that there shall be on the part of the government no interference whatever with the operations of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, in particular with its programming activities and above all its programming activities in relation to opinion broadcasts.

That quotation may be found at page 2822 of Hansard of March 29, 1957. Will the Prime Minister comment on the report in this morning's Globe and Mail following protests in a Conservative caucus concerning certain appearances of the Leader of the Opposition on television, when it states that:

A group of cabinet ministers have agreed to consider approaching C.B.C. chairman A. D. Dunton on the subject.

Is this report in the Globe and Mail correct?

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
Subtopic:   OPINION BROADCASTS
Sub-subtopic:   REFERENCE TO PRESS RE- PORT RESPECTING PROGRAMMING ACTIVITIES
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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

There should be no interference and will be no interference with the C.B.C. As far as the statement is concerned, it is simply press speculation. The stand we took last year is the stand we take now and shall continue to take.

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
Subtopic:   OPINION BROADCASTS
Sub-subtopic:   REFERENCE TO PRESS RE- PORT RESPECTING PROGRAMMING ACTIVITIES
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PUBLIC BUILDINGS

USE OF OLD SACRED HEART HOSPITAL AS HOME FOR AGED


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Alexis Pierre Caron

Liberal

Mr. Alexis Caron (Hull):

May I direct a question to the Minister of Public Works. I am told that next Monday the patients in the old Sacred Heart hospital will be removed to the new hospital. In view of the great need for a place for old people, would the minister consider the possibility of lending the old hospital for a period of ten years to the city of Hull?

Topic:   PUBLIC BUILDINGS
Subtopic:   USE OF OLD SACRED HEART HOSPITAL AS HOME FOR AGED
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PC

Howard Charles Green (Minister of Defence Production; Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Howard C. Green (Minister of Public Works):

Mr. Speaker, I shall have to take this question as notice.

Topic:   PUBLIC BUILDINGS
Subtopic:   USE OF OLD SACRED HEART HOSPITAL AS HOME FOR AGED
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NEWCASTLE, N. B. STATEMENT ON PROPOSED NEW FEDERAL BUILDING


On the orders of the day:


PC

Howard Charles Green (Minister of Defence Production; Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Progressive Conservative Party House Leader)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Howard C. Green (Minister of Public Works):

Mr. Speaker, yesterday the hon. member for Northumberland-Miramichi asked me this question:

Can the minister advise as to the cause of the long delay in commencing the erection of the federal public building at Newcastle, New Brunswick? s

The answer is that work was started and the excavation completed when it was found

that subsoil conditions were unfavourable. This was partly due to the fact that at the request of the town council, who visited me here some weeks ago, the building has been moved back either 10 or 15 feet on the property. Because of the condition which has developed it has been necessary to provide for a foundation of piling, and that has meant redesigning. Just as soon as this is completed the work will go ahead. I am hoping that work can be started again very quickly.

Topic:   NEWCASTLE, N. B. STATEMENT ON PROPOSED NEW FEDERAL BUILDING
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ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY TOLLS REPORTED STATEMENT BY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Lionel Chevrier (Laurier):

I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Transport. This morning's Gazette carries the story of a speech made by the minister to the dominion marine association at the Seigniory club in the province of Quebec headed "Shipowners Greet Hees' Tolls Views". I quote just one short paragraph, which reads as follows:

Transport minister George Hees tonight told lake shipowners from both Canada and the United States his personal views on seaway tolls "are much in keeping with your own."

These views are that there should be a three to five year toll-free program on the seaway, and the question I wish to ask is this. Does the speech made by the minister indicate that consideration has been given to a three to five year toll-free operation period on the seaway?

Topic:   ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY TOLLS REPORTED STATEMENT BY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT
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PC

George Harris Hees (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George H. Hees (Minister of Transport):

No, Mr. Speaker. The statement I made was as follows, and I now quote from the text I used:

One matter in which I know you are very much interested is the tolls which will be charged when the seaway opens. This question is, unfortunately, at present under consideration by committees of both countries, and cannot, of course, be discussed here. I may say, however, that my personal views are much in keeping with yours, namely that the seaway will not be able to fulfil its purpose unless it is economically possible for a large volume of shipping to use it. The economy of Canada is very much dependent upon cheap water transportation.

Mr. Speaker, those were the views I expressed, and those were also the views expressed to me by various members of the dominion marine association who have visited me here in Ottawa during the past three months. They are views with which I thoroughly agree.

Topic:   ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY TOLLS REPORTED STATEMENT BY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Official Opposition House Leader; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege. Yesterday I asked the minister this question:

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of Transport. Is the minister in favour of a three to five year test period during which 96698-232

Inquiries of the Ministry tolls would not be collected on the St. Lawrence seaway, as advocated by the dominion marine association? Does the minister intend to discuss this proposal with that group?

The answer of the minister was as follows: The hon. member for Laurier knows that the question of seaway tolls is at present under discussion by committees both in Canada and the United States, and it would be completely improper for any member of the government to express an opinion on this matter until those discussions have been completed.

My question of privilege is that the minister made a speech to the group at the Seigniory club in which he have his views at greater length than he has expressed them here this morning, because they can be found in the report of the Gazette. The House of Commons, however, is told that the views which the minister has cannot be discussed here because it would be improper when the matter is under discussion by other committees. I say to you, Mr. Speaker, that is certainly not in keeping with the rules of this house as I understand them.

Topic:   ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY TOLLS REPORTED STATEMENT BY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

Topic:   ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY TOLLS REPORTED STATEMENT BY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT
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PC

George Harris Hees (Minister of Transport)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hees:

Mr. Speaker, the hon. member for Laurier has achieved the result of proving that ministers of this government, contrary to the practice followed by ministers of the previous government, say outside this house what they say inside the house.

Topic:   ST. LAWRENCE SEAWAY TOLLS REPORTED STATEMENT BY MINISTER OF TRANSPORT
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January 23, 1958