1. Have any biological warfare experiments or research been carried out in Canada in 1956 or 1957, under the direction of American (U.S.A.) scientists?

2. If so, under what agreement or agreements were these arrangements made?

3. How many American scientists have been involved in such experiments?

Hon. G. R. Pearkes (Minister of National Defence):

The answer to the first part of the question is no. The second and third parts of the question are not applicable in view of the answer to the first part of the question. However, in fairness to the hon. member who asked the question I should say that during this period United States scientists have assisted in biological warfare experiments, but the work was at all times and at all stages under the direction of Canadian scientists. This assistance was provided under the basic standardization agreement among the armies of the United States, United Kingdom and Canada, 1954. Seven American scientists assisted in these experiments for a period of about four months during the winter of 1956-57.

On the orders of the day:

Mr. D. M. Fisher (Port Arthur):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to address a question to the Minister of National Defence supplementary to the starred question on biological warfare experiments. Can the minister indicate the location, the scope and the safety precautions taken in connection with these biological warfare experiments?

Mr. Pearkes:

Mr. Speaker, some of the experiments have been carried out at the experimental station at Suffield, Alberta.

1. Did any companies supply engineering services worth more than $50,000 to the Department of Defence Production during the fiscal years ending March, 1956 and March, 1957?

2. If so, (a) what companies; (b) what was the amount, by company, of these services?

Hon. Howard C. Green (Acting Minister of Defence Production):

Mr. Speaker, this question is in two parts. The answer to the first part is yes. The answer to the second part is rather lengthy. There is a list of about

12 or 15 different companies. Perhaps the mover would be willing if this list were to be printed in Hansard rather than being read aloud at this time.

Mr. Speaker:

Is it agreed that this answer be printed in Hansard instead of being given orally?

Agreed.

Mr. Speaker:

Question answered.

Mr. Green:

The list is as follows:

Fiscal year ending March 1956:

(b) Value of

(a) Firm Services

Avro Aircraft Limited, Malton, Ont $162,858

Canadair Limited, Montreal, P.Q 179,181

Canadian Aviation Electronics Limited,

Montreal, P.Q 348,494

Canadian General Electric Company

Limited, Toronto, Ont 165,664

Computing Devices of Canada Limited,

Ottawa, Ont., 375,177

Gilfillan Bros., Inc., Los Angeles, Cal.,

U.S.A 223,857

Given Manufacturing Company, Los

Angeles, Cal., U.S.A 169,288

Orenda Engines Limited, Toronto, Ont., 104,183 P.S.C. Applied Research Limited, Toronto,

Ont 51,617

R.C.A. Victor Company Limited, Ottawa,

Ont 63,223

Sperry Gyroscope Company of Canada

Limited, Montreal, P.Q 59,922

Fiscal year ending March 1957:

(b) Value of

(a) Firm Services

Avro Aircraft Limited, Malton, Ont 137,081

Canadair Limited, Montreal, P.Q 116,392

Canadian Aviation Electronics Limited,

Montreal, P.Q 408,899

Canadian General Electric Company

Limited, Toronto, Ont 114,530

Computing Devices of Canada Limited,

Ottawa, Ont 716,767

deHavilland Aircraft of Canada Limited,

Toronto, Ont 83,076

Mechron Engineering Products Limited,

Ottawa, Ont 64,442

National Scientific Laboratories Inc.,

Washington, D.C., U.S.A 50,369

Orenda Engines Limited, Toronto, Ont. 153,473 Philco Corporation, Philadelphia, Pa.,

U.S.A 135,768

Waste King Corporation, Los Angeles,

Cal., U.S.A 89,395

Note: Information based on contracts primarily for technical and field service representatives and consulting engineering services.

1. Did any companies supply engineering services worth more than $50,000 to Defence Construction (1951) Limited, during the fiscal years ending March, 1956 and March, 1957?

2. If so, (a) what companies; (b) what was the amount, by company, of these services?

Questions

Hon. Howard C. Green (Acting Minister of Defence Production):

Mr. Speaker, this is a similar question and is in two parts. The answer to the first part is yes. In answer to the second part of the question there is another list of a number of companies, and I would ask that the list be printed in Hansard rather than read orally.

Mr. Speaker:

Is the house agreed?

Some hoii. Members: Agreed.

Mr. Speaker:

Question answered.

Mr. Green:

The answer to part 2 of the question is as follows:

(a)-1956 (b)

H. H. Angus & Associates Ltd., Toronto,

Ontario $ 58,083

Associated Engineering Services, Ltd., Edmonton, Alberta 124,878

Beauchemin & Hurter, Montreal, Quebec.. 122,362

George Demers, Quebec, Quebec 85,205

M. M. Dillon & Co. Ltd., London, Ontario 158,525 Donald Inspection Ltd., Toronto, Ontario.. 115,817 R. M. Hardy & Associates, Edmonton,

Alberta 70,974

A. D. Margison & Associates, Toronto,

Ontario 275,562

C. C. Parker & Associates Ltd., Hamilton,

Ontario 340,552

Procter, Redfern & Laughlin, Toronto,

Ontario 122,861

Ripley & Associates Ltd., Edmonton, Alberta 128,172 Stadler & Hurter Co., Montreal, Quebec .. 50,674

Surveyer, Nenniger & Chenevert, Montreal,

Quebec 138,200

Underwood. McLellan & Associates, Saskatoon, Sask 266,042

Warnock-Hersey Co. Ltd., Toronto, Ontario 158,458 Wiggs, Walford, Frost & Lindsay, Montreal,

Quebec.

Engineering services $ 22,854

Engineering and architectural... 290,862 313,716

(a)-1957 (b)

Associated Engineering Services, Ltd.,

Edmonton, Alberta $131,243

George Demers, Quebec, Quebec 70,145

M. M. Dillon & Co. Ltd., London, Ontario 151,288 Donald Inspection Ltd., Toronto, Ontario 61,714 Ewbank & Partners (Canada) Ltd., & Dilworth, Secord & Associates, Toronto,

Ontario 308,166

C. C. Parker & Associates, Hamilton,

Ontario 318,691

A. D. Margison & Associates, Toronto,

Ontario 152,314

Ripley & Associates Limited, Edmonton,

Alberta 171,719

Surveyer, Nenniger & Chenevert, Montreal,

Quebec 91,531

Underwood, McLellan & Associates, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 125,528

Warnock-Hersey Co. Ltd., Toronto, Ontario 98,725 Wiggs, Walford, Frost & Lindsay, Montreal Quebec. Engineering and architectural services 79,352