November 22, 1957

FEDERAL LOANS FOR PROVINCIAL DEVELOPMENTS


On the orders of the day:


LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill

Liberal

Hon. J. W. Pickersgill (Bonavisia-Twil-lingate):

Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether the Prime Minister is in a position now to answer starred question No. 37.

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I regret that I was not here yesterday. I promised to give an answer at the first opportunity and I had it available, but it was necessary for me to be absent. The questions are as follows:

1. Are loans based on the principle applied to the Beechwood project to be available only for projects in the Atlantic provinces?

The answer is no.

2. If not, will all provinces qualify?

The answer is that any province that has a project for which there is an equally good case could qualify in respect of that project.

3. Are such loans available only for projects owned by provincial governments or provincial crown agencies or will they be available to private power companies sponsored by a provincial government?

The answer is no, they would not be available for private companies.

4. Are such loans available only for new or uncompleted projects or will they be available for refunding obligations of established power projects in the Atlantic provinces?

The answer is they would not be available for refunding obligations.

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LIB

Jean Lesage

Liberal

Hon. Jean Lesage (Monlmagny-L'Islei):

May I ask a supplementary question. The Prime Minister said, in answer to the second part of the question, I believe, that other provinces would be eligible if they had an equally good case. Would he be good enough to enlarge on that and tell the house especially if the words "equally good case" have in them the factor of inability to supply the capital necessary for a given development?

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Mr. Speaker, the general policy, of course, arose in connection with the peculiar circumstances existing in the maritime provinces, where through the years there has been a realization on the part of Canadians as a whole that those areas did

not at all times equal the general development in other parts of Canada. Wherever there is a position similar to that, naturally the similar circumstances will assure that similar consideration will be given by the government to applications made by provinces.

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LIB

Jean Lesage

Liberal

Mr. Lesage:

May I ask a supplementary question. Do I interpret the reply of the Prime Minister as meaning that, under the present financial circumstances of Ontario and Quebec, this policy would not apply to them?

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Mr. Speaker, I have given the general formula. My hon. friend will be able to determine the answer, on the basis of that formula, as to whether or not Ontario and Quebec would be in a similar category.

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MISSION TO UNITED KINGDOM

MATTERS TO BE DISCUSSED


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Frederick Samuel Zaplitny

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. F. S. Zaplifny (Dauphin):

Yesterday the Prime Minister expressed the hope that as a result of the mission going to the United Kingdom, a new concept of trade between our country and the United Kingdom would be born. Did that new concept to which he was referring mean the acceptance of the free trade offer made by the United Kingdom?

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

Again my hon. friend is placing himself in the position of interpreting the words I used. What I said in effect was this, that the mission in question is unusual in the sense that I believe it is the first of its kind; imaginative in its concept, in that businessmen, agriculturists, leaders in labour, fisheries and the like, go over to the United Kingdom with a view to ascertaining what can be done to bring about an increase in trade, which indeed would be a new concept having regard to the novelty of a group of outstanding men undertaking such a responsibility on behalf of this country.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Hon. Paul Martin (Essex East):

The Prime Minister was not in the house yesterday because of official preoccupation elsewhere, but I asked the Minister of Finance whether or not the Minister of Trade and Commerce would be taking advantage of his visit to the United Kingdom to discuss the British

Inquiries of the Ministry free trade proposal, and the proposal made by the Prime Minister, with members of the United Kingdom government while he is there. Can the Prime Minister say whether or not those discussions will be taking place?

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

The Minister of Trade and Commerce would not take advantage of the opportunity, but no doubt while he is over there discussions on any matter regarded as of mutual importance in the increase of trade will be taken up and discussed.

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IMPORTS FROM UNITED STATES INTO BRITISH COLUMBIA


On the orders of the day:


SC

George William McLeod

Social Credit

Mr. G. W. McLeod (Okanagan-Revelsfoke):

I have a question, Mr. Speaker, for the Minister of Agriculture of which he has been given notice. Has the government become aware of heavy imports of hay from the United States of America into western and southern British Columbia, mainly delivered by trucks and trailers? If so, is any action contemplated to protect the hay growers of the Okanagan and Shuswap areas, who find it impossible to meet this competition?

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PC

Douglas Scott Harkness (Minister of Agriculture)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. D. S. Harkness (Minister of Agriculture):

Mr. Speaker, I came directly from another meeting to this chamber, so I did not get the hon. member's notice. I do not know what is the situation with regard to these hay imports. I had heard some time ago that there were small quantities coming in, but I will have the matter looked into and give him an answer as soon as possible.

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ALBERTA

November 22, 1957