October 29, 1957

PRIVILEGE

MR. MARTIN (ESSEX EAST)-REFERENCE TO REMARKS OF PRIME MINISTER IN TELEVISION ADDRESS

LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Hon. Paul Martin (Essex East):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege. Last night the Prime Minister spoke to the nation over the television facilities of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, and in the course of that speech he made an announcement of government policy. He referred to the effective date when various amendments to social security measures would be applied in Canada.

I submit to you, sir, that it is within the traditions and practices of parliament that announcements of government policy, while the house is in session, should be made in parliament. I should have thought, Mr. Speaker, that such an announcement by one who in the past has so often regarded himself as one of the champions of parliament would not have been made by that particular right hon. gentleman. I think my question of privilege, sir, is well founded, particularly in view of the fact that on October 22 the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Knowles)-

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

At

page 248.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. Martin (Essex East):

-at page 248 of Hansard asked this question of the Minister of National Health and Welfare:

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of National Health and Welfare. In view of the fact that in the resolutions of which he has given notice calling for amendments to the Old Age Security Act and related statutes he has been good enough to give us all the other details, can he now tell us what is to be the effective date?

The reply of the Minister of National Health and Welfare was as follows:

Mr. Speaker, the effective date will appear in the legislation when the bill appears before the house.

Surely last night's statement by the Prime Minister is a violation of the right hon. gentleman's own counsel, and obviously a violation of the rights of parliament.

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I must say that my hon. friend is apparently hard pressed to find something to which to object-

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

-in order to bring his name before the Canadian public at a time when he is most anxious to have it brought before the public. Any statement I made last evening was a statement which, with the exception of one item, was covered by the resolution. I am one who does not follow a script too closely, and if in a momentary indiscretion I pointed out that it was the intention of the government to have this social security measure begin on November 1, I am sure nobody was harmed.

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An hon. Member:

What about this house you profess to love so much?

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PC

John George Diefenbaker (Prime Minister)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Let me say this. If at any time this side of the house or this government commits no more serious indiscretion, if it is such, than happened last night, the people of Canada will continue to be well satisfied with this government; and the opportunity will not be too long delayed to give them that chance to indicate whether or not they were shocked last evening by the revelation which disturbed the hon. gentleman.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, obviously, since I had the relevant page of Hansard open, it was my intention to raise the same question of privilege, believing as I do that the Prime Minister feels that the supremacy of parliament should be maintained.

However, now that the point has been raised and now that the Prime Minister has given over the television network information which his colleague in the cabinet would not give in the house, will he tell us what is meant by "an effective date of November 1"? In terms of what cheque will the increase be effective? Will the cheque at the first of November or the cheque at the end of November be in the full amount of $55?

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Daniel Roland Michener (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Speaker:

I think the question of privilege has been sufficiently stated and commented on, and questions should be deferred till later.

Inquiries of the Ministry

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

shall be quite satisfied to have an answer on the orders of the day.

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INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS

PROVISION OF ANNUAL VACATIONS WITH PAY FOR EMPLOYEES IN FEDERAL WORKS

PC

Michael Starr (Minister of Labour)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. Michael Starr (Minister of Labour) moved

for leave to introduce Bill No. 16, to provide for annual vacations with pay for employees in public works, undertakings and businesses.

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Some hon. Members:

Explain.

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Michael Starr (Minister of Labour)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Starr:

Mr. Speaker, the purpose of this bill is to provide annual vacations with pay for employees in federal works, undertakings or businesses as covered by the Industrial Relations and Disputes Investigation Act, the fair employment practices act and the equal pay act. This bill provides for one week's vacation after the first year of employment and two weeks' vacation after the second year of employment.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

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SOCIAL SECURITY

REQUEST FOR EFFECTIVE DATE OF AMENDMENTS TO ACTS

October 29, 1957