April 12, 1957

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Lester Bowles Pearson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

I said he was a loyal Canadian.

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

The first time we have heard a word about this subject from the lips of the minister was today.

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LIB

John Horace Dickey (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Defence Production)

Liberal

Mr. Dickey:

Where have you been?

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

The first time he mentioned it was today and if I remember correctly he said that in his early years Mr. Norman had associations with communists. That is exactly what the subcommittee in the United States took as evidence from somebody.

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Paul Joseph James Martin (Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Mr. Martin:

No, no, they went much further.

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I happen to have a copy of the evidence in front of me which I have just been reading.

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An hon. Member:

This is just another attempt to smear.

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

I am not attempting to smear at all. What I am attempting to understand is why the minister and his associates allowed this thing to drag on from 1951 without coming clean and making it clear that this man had been cleared.

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Lester Bowles Pearson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

We said that in 1951; twice, formally.

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LIB

Lester Bowles Pearson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

Well, what do you want us

to do?

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

But today the minister is letting us know something that he has withheld ever since 1951.

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Lester Bowles Pearson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

We said he was a loyal citizen.

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

That is right, the minister very reluctantly let that out today and perhaps, as the Leader of the Opposition said, he said too much. The point is that the minister did say today that it was discovered in 1951 that in Mr. Norman's early years he had had certain associations with communists, but that had all been cleared away. What I am interested in finding out is this: What was the security check that was held in 1951? I have understood from the minister's statements that there was a double check; by whom was that double check made?

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

By the R.C.M.P. security people; were they the ones who gave him the clearance in 1951?

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Lester Bowles Pearson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

The R.C.M.P. did the

checking.

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Solon Earl Low

Social Credit

Mr. Low:

That is fine; the R.C.M.P. may have done the checking but after the checking was done by the R.C.M.P. security people who gave Mr. Norman the clearance?

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Lester Bowles Pearson (Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Pearson:

On the basis of the R.C.M.P. check Mr. Norman was given a complete clearance.

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April 12, 1957