April 8, 1957

LIB

Thomas Gordon William Ashbourne

Liberal

Mr. Ashbourne:

I should like, at this stage to make a few remarks in explanation to the hon. member who did not receive his notice. I regret that very much indeed. I might say that I was not here on Saturday, but last night at 11.30 I left Goose Bay and travelled by plane. The plane was delayed yesterday because of icing conditions and mechanical trouble and had to return to Montreal. This morning when I arrived in Montreal at 20 minutes after two I called my wife to let her know I was on the way. She told me the parliamentary assistant was very anxious to have this committee meet today. I saw the sun rise this morning as I was waiting for the plane to come to Ottawa. I arrived at my apartment at 20 minutes to seven and at 10 minutes to nine I was here in this building. I communicated with Mr. Arsenault of the committees' branch and asked him if he could have the committee meet at the earliest possible time as I understood we were anxious to get through this business. After chatting with the parliamentary assistant the meeting was called for three o'clock this afternoon.

According to the report 12 members attended the committee meeting. I wish to apologize for the fact the hon. member did not receive a notice. I noted the absence of the hon. member, but I took it that he might have gone to British Columbia and for that reason I did not make any special investigation or inquire any farther, especially as there were other members present.

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

I do not think the hon. member has any right to think that I had gone to British Columbia, much as I should like to go there. There are three members from British Columbia in this party, and they are all here. If the hon. member has been travelling to his own part of Canada during the week-end, that is no responsibility of mine. I was here during the discussion on Saturday; I was here over the week-end, and I have been here today. A meeting has

North Pacific Fur Seals been called, and because the members have not been properly notified I claim that meeting has been called illegally.

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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LIB

William Alfred Robinson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

We need not discuss that. Do I take it the hon. member is withholding unanimous consent.

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

Do we have to have unanimous consent?

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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LIB

John Whitney Pickersgill (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)

Liberal

Mr. Pickersgill:

Has not unanimous consent been given already?

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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LIB

William Alfred Robinson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

No, the hon. member rose immediately when I inquired if unanimous consent was given. I was inquiring whether the hon. member is withholding unanimous consent to the request of the chairman of the committee that we revert to the item, presenting reports by standing and select committees.

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

I want to register the strongest possible objection to the manner in which this meeting was called. I consider it was called illegally and that the meeting was not a proper meeting, but I will not go so far as to say that I will object to proceeding with this motion. I do consider that it was done in a manner which was unworthy.

It was slipshod work on the part of the clerk or whoever was responsible for sending out the notice. In view of the apologies which have been made by the chairman of the committee and by the parliamentary assistant I will not hold up the bill.

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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LIB

William Alfred Robinson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Has the hon. member unanimous consent to revert to the item "presenting reports by standing and special committees"?

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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LIB

Thomas Gordon William Ashbourne

Liberal

Mr. Ashbourne:

Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to present the third report of the standing committee on marine and fisheries.

Topic:   MARINE AND FISHERIES
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT FOR PRESENTATION OF COMMITTEE REPORT
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NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS

IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION

LIB

John Watson MacNaught (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. J. Watson MacNaught (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Fisheries):

Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether I could have unanimous consent to have the Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys (Mr. Prudham) move for the Minister of Fisheries:

That Bill No. 412, an act to implement the interim convention on conservation of north Pacific fur seals, reported upon this day by the standing committee on marine and fisheries be placed on the order paper for consideration in committee of the whole later this day, and that standing order 20, subsection 1, be suspended in relation thereto.

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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LIB

William Alfred Robinson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Has the hon. gentleman leave to revert to motions for this purpose?

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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Some hon. Members:

Agreed.

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. G. R. Pearkes (Esquimali-Saanich):

Mr. Speaker, I wonder whether the parliamentary assistant would be so kind as to advise the house what consideration was given this bill during the committee sittings? Before the parliamentary assistant replies, I have a few questions that I should like to ask and a few matters I should like to deal with. I should like to call attention to the fact that this bill is not yet available to members on this side of the house.

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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LIB

William Alfred Robinson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

Order. I took it that the motion which had been made by the Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys had carried. If such is the case, there would be nothing before the house, and any question which the hon. member wishes to ask might better be asked in committee and, in fact, could only be asked in committee.

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

Mr. Speaker, I did not understand that this had been moved in to the committee stage. Has it? I thought you were still in the chair.

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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LIB

William Alfred Robinson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Deputy Speaker:

The motion was

merely to place it on the order paper for consideration later this day. I understood that that had been agreed to. We have not yet moved into committee.

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

Before we move into committee, is this debatable?

Topic:   NORTH PACIFIC FUR SEALS
Subtopic:   IMPLEMENTATION OF INTERIM CONVENTION ON CONSERVATION
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April 8, 1957