April 4, 1957

BUFFALO AND FORT ERIE PUBLIC BRIDGE COMPANY

AMENDMENTS EXTENDING LIFE AND ENLARGING MEMBERSHIP OF BOARD

LIB

George Carlyle Marler (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Hon. George C. Marler (Minister of Transport) moved

the first reading of Bill No. 402 (from the Senate), respecting the Buffalo and Fort Erie Public Bridge Company.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   BUFFALO AND FORT ERIE PUBLIC BRIDGE COMPANY
Subtopic:   AMENDMENTS EXTENDING LIFE AND ENLARGING MEMBERSHIP OF BOARD
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CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION

REPRESENTATIONS BY MINISTER WITHOUT AUTHORITY OF PARLIAMENT


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of National Revenue. In view of the limitations on the functions assigned to the minister under the Canadian Broadcasting Act, will he now tell the house whether he thinks it was appropriate for him to make repeated representations to the corporation regarding its programming without obtaining the authority of parliament to do so?

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James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Hon. J. J. McCann (Minister of National Revenue):

My answer, Mr. Speaker, is yes.

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I should like to direct a supplementary question to the Prime Minister. Is the Prime Minister aware of the terms of the act and of the order in council appointing Hon. J. J. McCann, a minister of the crown, to carry out the responsibilities set out in the act? Does he not feel that his responsibilities should be only those that are delegated to the minister by parliament rather than any that are given to him by the government?

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. S. St. Laurent (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I am sure the minister who reports to parliament in connection with the C.B.C. has been very careful not to exceed the authority he properly has.

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

May I ask the minister who reports for the C.B.C. to parliament, but who

is not its administrator, to tell us on whose behalf he made his direct representations to the C.B.C.?

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. McCann:

Mr. Speaker, that is a rather hard question to answer. If the hon. member means the individuals on whose behalf, I would have to look over the correspondence and see who made the protests.

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I was referring to the portion of the minister's reply yesterday where he referred to direct representations, not those he made as an intermediary.

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. McCann:

Mr. Speaker, that was the interpretation of my duties to parliament and to the government.

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
Subtopic:   REPRESENTATIONS BY MINISTER WITHOUT AUTHORITY OF PARLIAMENT
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Mr. Speaker, has the minister under the act and under the order in council any duties to the government with respect to this matter? Has he received any authority from parliament to do what he has done?

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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Louis-René Beaudoin (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

I understand the hon. member for Cartier is rising on a point of order.

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Leon David Crestohl

Liberal

Mr. Cresfohl:

I respectfully submit to you, Mr. Speaker, that there is a limit to this abuse of cross-examination, which does not fall within the scope of the question period. I urge Your Honour to arrest this crossexamination, which is completely outside the standing orders of the house.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I rise on a question of privilege. My question of privilege is one on behalf of the members of parliament. There is a statute-

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Louis-René Beaudoin (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Does the hon. gentleman not think we should deal first with the point of order? Does he have anything to say with respect to the point of order raised by the hon. member for Cartier?

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

The only thing I have to say is that the witness has not answered the questions properly.

Topic:   CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION
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April 4, 1957