March 14, 1957

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J.-Wilfrid Dufresne

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dufresne:

At any rate, let us understand each other. Whenever I have to seek information on religious matters, I shall try to get it from the religious authorities or from my parish priest, instead of listening to rather fanciful explanations of the hon. member for Cochrane.

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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

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Daniel Roland Michener

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Michener:

That has become a habit now. I do not intend to take part in this discussion-

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I am interested in a question that was asked a few days ago and wonder whether the minister could give the information now about the turnover in the letter carrier staff of the post office. Are there any statistics available to show the rate of resignation and hiring among letter carriers in the department?

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Arthur-Joseph Lapointe

Mr. Lapoinie:

I am informed that the general turnover throughout Canada is approximately 11.3 per cent. It is higher both in Vancouver and in Toronto as I mentioned the other day in answer to a question. In Vancouver it is 17.2 per cent and in Toronto 19.1.

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Daniel Roland Michener

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Michener:

That is among the letter carriers rather than the entire staff?

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Hugues Lapointe (Postmaster General; Minister of Veterans Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Lapointe:

Yes, but I am informed that the average is somewhat similar for all other employees.

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Daniel Roland Michener

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Michener:

Has the minister any information about the number of letter carriers who have served the department a very long time? I recall that a letter carrier came with

the mail to my office for years and years and probably he had been with the department for 20 years or more. Are there any statistics concerning letter carriers who have 25 years' service?

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Hugues Lapointe (Postmaster General; Minister of Veterans Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Lapointe:

I am sure I do not have that information but our turnover is higher amongst newly employed letter carriers or other employees than amongst older letter carriers and other employees.

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Daniel Roland Michener

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Michener:

It was my impression that in recent years the turnover has been more rapid and that it has been increasingly difficult to keep the letter carrier staff complete.

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Hugues Lapointe (Postmaster General; Minister of Veterans Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Lapointe:

Yes, it is, but of course it is higher among the younger people because of the higher level of employment and particularly where there is a tight labour market. That is why the average for Toronto and Vancouver is much higher than the general average throughout Canada.

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Daniel Roland Michener

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Michener:

I have just one further question, Mr. Chairman. Has it ever been necessary to take letter carriers from one big centre to another because it was impossible to engage sufficient staff there?

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Arthur-Joseph Lapointe

Mr. Lapoinie:

No, that has never been done.

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John Borden Hamilton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Noire Dame de Grace):

Mr. Chairman, can the Postmaster General tell us what was the net increase in the number of letter carriers on the staff over the past year, let us say in the period from March 1, 1956 to March 1, 1957 or something of that nature?

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Arthur-Joseph Lapointe

Mr. Lapoinie:

Yes, I have that information. The increase was 252. That is, the over-all number has been increased by 252.

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John Borden Hamilton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Noire Dame de Grace):

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other words, the engagements minus the resignations give a net increase of 252, which brings us closer to the figure in the estimate for last year. In his statement to the committee on the first item the Postmaster General told us that the increase in the number of householders served by letter carriers was 288,633. Later in answer to another question he told us that the average number of houses served by letter carrier was approximately 500. If we consider the 252 additional letter carriers as each serving 500 houses we come up with an increase in the number of houses served of approximately 125,000. How were the remaining 160,000-

odd houses served without increasing the burden on the letter carriers?

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March 14, 1957