May 28, 1956

LIB

George Carlyle Marler (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Marler:

But, Mr. Speaker, I should like to say that although my attendance at a Liberal meeting that evening was one of the purposes of my going to Montreal I did not return on my private car that evening but stayed over until the following day to attend to departmental matters. I was unable to return on the car that night and had not planned to do so. I hope that will satisfy the hon. gentleman. I assure him that the next time I am going to Montreal in my private car I shall think of him and perhaps I might ask him to go with me.

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   QUEBEC PROVINCIAL ELECTION
Sub-subtopic:   RAILWAY CARS
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PC

John Borden Hamilton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hamilton (Noire Dame de Grace):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the minister's statement that he stayed in Montreal to do business the following day would he explain how it was that he voted in the house the next afternoon?

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   QUEBEC PROVINCIAL ELECTION
Sub-subtopic:   RAILWAY CARS
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LIB

George Carlyle Marler (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Marler:

Mr. Speaker, I am flattered by the interest of the hon. gentleman opposite. I may say it is not reciprocated. I do not wish to create a precedent with regard to saying what my movements are outside of this house but I should like to say that I returned on the "Canadian", leaving Montreal at 2.05 p.m. and arriving here shortly after four o'clock. I at once came to the House of Commons and I voted soon after.

Topic:   TRANSPORT
Subtopic:   QUEBEC PROVINCIAL ELECTION
Sub-subtopic:   RAILWAY CARS
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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

INQUIRY AS TO FURTHER INTERIM SUPPLY


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of Finance. Is the minister in a position yet to answer my question of Friday respecting when he is going to ask the house for interim supply so he will have some money in June? In the meantime, can he assure civil servants that the present interim supply he has will make it possible for him to pay salaries on the 31st of May?

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FURTHER INTERIM SUPPLY
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LIB

Walter Edward Harris (Minister of Finance and Receiver General; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. W. E. Harris (Minisier of Finance):

am not in a position to answer the question, but I will make inquiries.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FURTHER INTERIM SUPPLY
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On the orders of the day:


PC

Wallace Bickford (Wally) Nesbitt

Progressive Conservative

Mr. W. B. Nesbitt (Oxford):

I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Trade and Commerce. Is the minister in a position

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Inquiries of the Ministry Minister of Trade and Commerce. Has his notice been directed to a statement by Mr. Marshall A. Johnson of Vancouver, representative of the East West Export Import Company, who is in Peking, China, representing 14 Canadian firms with a view to opening up trade in China? What is the attitude of the government toward this matter?

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FURTHER INTERIM SUPPLY
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO REPORTED IMPORTS FROM POLAND
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Defence Production; Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Right Hon. C. D. Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

I have already referred to the East West trading company in this house. Perhaps my hon. friend was not present. I have said that it has been a channel through which efforts have been made to break down the NATO list of strategic materials. The firm has been investigated by a number of men who have been invited to visit China under the auspices of the firm, and I may say that the reports are not good.

The position of China, as regards purchasing goods from abroad, has been examined carefully by our officers, who have questioned men who have been in China. The chairman of the wheat board was recently in the Orient. In Hong Kong he had the opportunity to question a number of people who I think were in a position to give an accurate version. A representative of Australia visited China officially a short time ago and he reported that he was advised that the government is not interested in the purchase of any foodstuffs or of wool or cotton. I think that we must assume that the reports being sent out by the gentleman referred to are not accurate reports.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FURTHER INTERIM SUPPLY
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO REPORTED IMPORTS FROM POLAND
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PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

In further reference to Mr. Marshall A. Johnson who is now in Peking, the representative of these companies, would the Prime Minister consider that it would be a proper course to have Mr. Johnson while there try to collect something on the $12 million on the Ming Sung ships that pass in the night? He is there now.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FURTHER INTERIM SUPPLY
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO REPORTED IMPORTS FROM POLAND
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LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. S. St. Laurent (Prime Minister):

No, Mr. Speaker; I do not think that procedure would be very effective.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FURTHER INTERIM SUPPLY
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO REPORTED IMPORTS FROM POLAND
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PRIVILEGE

MR. CAMERON, NANAIMO REFERENCE TO ARTICLE IN MONTREAL "GAZETTE" OF MAY 28


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Colin Cameron

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Colin Cameron (Nanaimo):

Mr. Speaker, I am rising on a point of privilege. I hold in my hand a copy of the Montreal

[Mr. Diefenbaker.!

Gazette dated Monday, May 28, in which there is an editorial containing the following paragraph:

Nor was this all. To make matters worse, the Speaker of the House of Commons, and his deputies, were inevitably dragged into the struggle on behalf of the government. Instead of playing an impartial role, they were required, whatever their own opinions may have been, to play their parts in chipping and chopping at parliament rights and privileges-all in the interests of stifling the voice of the house and getting the bill through.

Mr. Speaker, that is a reflection upon yourself and your deputies and also, therefore, a reflection on every hon. member of this house, and I suggest to you that, if it is not true, then some action should be taken with regard to the publishers of this particular newspaper. If, on the other hand, it should be true, then some action should be taken with regard to the government.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. CAMERON, NANAIMO REFERENCE TO ARTICLE IN MONTREAL "GAZETTE" OF MAY 28
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LIB

Louis-René Beaudoin (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

I am very glad that the hon. member brought that up. During the week end I reread all the rulings that I have made since the beginning of this pipe-line legislation. I have checked and rechecked them. I have found this: that in the case of the motion of the Leader of the Opposition to divide the bill in two, which I accepted, I should have ruled it out of order because notice had to be given for a motion of that kind. Secondly, I accepted a motion to adjourn the house by the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Knowles), and later, while discussing other matters, I did express the view that, although standing order 25 says that a motion to adjourn the house shall always be in order, I was coming to the view that if a motion is not debatable it would be difficult for anyone to stand up and say even, "I move that the house be now adjourned."

On that score I was wrong. I think that a motion to adjourn the house is always in order, and I have rallied myself, and I am glad to have an opportunity, in case this motion is desired to be used, to say now that, even on a non-debatable motion, a motion to adjourn the house is in order.

Except for those two instances, I stand by all the rulings that I have made. Now, I do not like what has happened and what has appeared in the press any more than any hon. members do. I want to tell this to hon. members, that my record since I have occupied the chair-and that is since 1949- is there to prove it. Furthermore, I will say this. I have a family and I have children who are old enough to understand what the word "impartial" means, and I do not want my children, when I go home, after they have read the newspaper, to look at me in such

Prime Minister. Would the Prime Minister indicate what information he has as to when it may be expected the federal power commission in Washington is going to render a decision on the application by Midwestern pipe line company to import gas from Trans-Canada Pipe Lines Limited into the United States? When is that decision expected? Is there any observer there for the Canadian government? What is the position in general with regard to that application?

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. CAMERON, NANAIMO REFERENCE TO ARTICLE IN MONTREAL "GAZETTE" OF MAY 28
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LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. S. St. Laurent (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I am not in a position to give the hon. member any information. I shall inquire whether there is a Canadian observer there. I am not in a position at the moment to state if the proceedings are being followed by a Canadian observer.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. CAMERON, NANAIMO REFERENCE TO ARTICLE IN MONTREAL "GAZETTE" OF MAY 28
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TRANS-CANADA PIPE LINES-REQUEST FOR TABLING OF AMOUNT OF SALES CONTRACTS

May 28, 1956