May 25, 1956

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John (Jack) Henry Horner

Mr. J. C. Van Horne (Restigouche-Mada-waska):

Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Prime Minister. Would he be so kind as to tell the house what line of reasoning compels his government on the one hand to bulldoze this $80 million loan to this American 34-inch gas pipe outfit, while on the other hand refusing a $45 million loan to the people of New Brunswick to develop urgently needed hydroelectric power?

Righl Hon. L. S. St. Laurenl (Prime Minister): Mr. Speaker, I do not think that is a question that should be dealt with on the [DOT]orders of the day.

Topic:   BEECHWOOD PROJECT, N.B. ALLEGED REFUSAL OF LOAN
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Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fulton:

Can you deal with it at all?

(Mr. Diefenbaker.]

Topic:   BEECHWOOD PROJECT, N.B. ALLEGED REFUSAL OF LOAN
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HAMILTON RIVER, LABRADOR STATEMENT ON REPORTED DEVELOPMENT


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Jean Lesage (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources)

Liberal

Hon. Jean Lesage (Minister of Northern Affairs and National Resources):

Mr. Speaker, on Friday last the hon. member for Vancouver-Quadra (Mr. Green) asked a question and referred to press dispatches of that morning which indicated that consideration was being given to the development of power on the Hamilton river in Newfoundland and the possible transmission of that power to Sept lies on the north shore of the province of Quebec.

As I indicated at that time, the development of power on the Hamilton river is purely a provincial responsibility and, of course, so is the transmission of power from Labrador to any other province. However, I asked officials of my department to get in touch with the officials of the British Newfoundland Corporation and have obtained the following information.

The British Newfoundland Corporation was founded in 1953 to carry out exploration of the unknown mineral, waterpower and wood resources on the island of Newfoundland and in Labrador. The waterpower potential of the Hamilton river was early recognized as one of the principal assets of the area. Thus, an intensive survey and accompanying engineering investigation were conducted through the summer seasons of 1954 and 1955, with subsequent engineering studies which have given very encouraging results.

This survey was done for the corporation by Montreal Engineering Company Limited and the Shawinigan Engineering Company Limited and, because of its unique features, it was described to the Engineering Institute of Canada's annual conference in the technical paper referred to in the press dispatch mentioned by the hon. member for Vancouver-Quadra. Since any such survey was bound to take into account possibilities for transmitting the electricity, a transmission line to Seven Islands was selected for examination as a typical case.

The present status of the investigation is understood to be that the corporation is ready to proceed with construction of a power plant as soon as there is definite demand for sufficient power to justify the project and as soon as the financing can be arranged. I understand that the stage has not yet been reached for any decision to be made on where the power could or should be utilized.

Topic:   HAMILTON RIVER, LABRADOR STATEMENT ON REPORTED DEVELOPMENT
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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Green:

Thank you very much.

Tuesday, May 29, 1956

Topic:   HAMILTON RIVER, LABRADOR STATEMENT ON REPORTED DEVELOPMENT
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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE

LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. S. St. Laurent (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege. The procedure followed by the government has been represented as an effort to prevent debate on the pipe-line bill, and I want to state emphatically that as soon as the motion before the committee is disposed of, further debate on the bill can begin and there will be all this week for it to be continued on its remaining stages.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

The retreat from Moscow.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George A. Drew (Leader of the Opposition):

Do I take that to m&an, Mr. Speaker, that the debate will not be continued on the committee stage?

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. St. Laurent (Quebec East):

No, Mr. Speaker. I say that, as soon as the motion before the committee has been disposed of, debate can begin either on clause 4 or, if hon. members wish to postpone clause 4, on clauses 5, 6 and 7, those we had thought would be the operative clauses on which it would be most interesting to have the debate develop.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

While welcoming any acceptance of the need for debate on the committee stage, I would point out that the appropriate procedure would be to revert to clause 1 because-

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear!

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

-unless we have dealt with clause 1 and particularly with clause 2, discussion of subsequent clauses becomes almost meaningless.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Diefenbaker:

Complete the retreat from Moscow.

Topic:   BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE
Subtopic:   PIPE-LINE DEBATE-PROCEDURE IN COMMITTEE
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STANDING ORDERS


Second report of standing committee on standing orders.-Mr. Harrison.


OFFICE OF CHAIRMAN OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE

May 25, 1956