May 24, 1956

PRIVILEGE

MR. JOHNSTON (BOW RIVER) REFERENCE TO ARTICLE IN OTTAWA "CITIZEN" OF MAY 23

SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. C. E. Johnston (Bow River):

Mr. Speaker, on a question of privilege I want to draw your attention to an article which appeared in the Ottawa Citizen yesterday. You will recall it was only a day or two ago when the press misquoted you and you had no other alternative but to accept their wrongdoing until the question was brought forward here in the house.

I wish to refer to this article because it makes reference to myself and other hon. members of the house. It is headed, "Calgary's Mayor Backs Nickle on Pipe Line Bill". The section I want to deal with appears half way through the article under the subheading "All Wrong", and reads as follows:

Mr. McKay, wearing his familiar white Stetson hat and avowing his loyalty to the Liberal party, felt that the Progressive Conservative and C.C.F. parties were "all wrong" in opposing the legislation.

At the same time he was not personally opposed to another Calgary Progressive Conservative member, D. S. Harkness, member of parliament for Calgary North, for his going along with his party on the controversial issue.

I want particularly to draw attention to the next paragraph which reads:

"We have three fine Calgary representatives in the House of Commons," he said. The third city member is C. E. Johnston, C.C.F. representative of the Bow River riding, who has been opposing the gas line measure.

I want to point out that the last sentence starts out with the wordi "The third city member", which words are not in quotation marks, so I assume they are the direct words of the reporter. I submit that if reporters in this house do not know the members, they should know them. After being 21 years in this house there should be no press reporter who thinks that I am connected with the C.C.F. party. Further, they should know that I have not, nor has this party, ever opposed the construction of an all-Canadian gas pipe line.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. JOHNSTON (BOW RIVER) REFERENCE TO ARTICLE IN OTTAWA "CITIZEN" OF MAY 23
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RAILWAYS. CANALS AND TELEGRAPH LINES


Sixth report of standing committee on railways, canals and telegraph lines.-Mr. McCulloch (Pictou).


ORANGES-USE FOR MARMALADE WHEN COLOUR ADDED


On the orders of the day:


SC

Frederick George Hahn

Social Credit

Mr. F. G. J. Hahn (New Westminster):

Mr. Speaker, I wish to address a question to the Minister of National Health and Welfare, notice of which I sent him earlier this day. In view of a reply to questions 4 and 5 on sessional paper No. 224 tabled in my name respecting the use of orange peels with colour added for the purpose of making marmalade, that the colour so used contains a coal tar substance, and the suitability of this colour for foods is now under investigation, would the minister consider advising the public to the effect that orange peels so coloured possibly should not be used for the purpose of making marmalade until such time as the results of the investigation are made known?

Topic:   ORANGES-USE FOR MARMALADE WHEN COLOUR ADDED
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Hon. Paul Marlin (Minister of National Health and Welfare):

Mr. Speaker, all I can say to my hon. friend is that my technical officers advise me that the evidence does not justify notifying the public that there is danger in the consumption of orange marmalade made with oranges coloured with the substance in question. I can only assure my hon. friend that the matter is being pursued further with great care.

Topic:   ORANGES-USE FOR MARMALADE WHEN COLOUR ADDED
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CIVIL DEFENCE

EVACUATION OF CITIES-STATEMENT BY FIELD MARSHAL MONTGOMERY


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Colin Cameron

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Colin Cameron (Nanaimo):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to address a question to the Minis: er of National Health and Welfare. Would he care to comment upon the reported s a e' nent by Field Marshal Viscount Mont-o.: c * with regard to the evacuation of ies?

Ion. Paul Martin (Minister of National 1 1th and Welfare): Mr. Speaker, in answer would simply say that any observation We by Field Marshal Montgomery would * oted and considered with great respect, i' en in its context the statement referred primarily to conditions in Europe and apparently he was looking forward to the time when we would be faced with the

Inquiries of the Ministry actuality of intercontinental guided missiles. No one suggests, of course, that evacuation is the final answer to all the problems that civil defence may have to face when these weapons not now in being come into existence. Nor does anyone minimize the problems that will arise in any attempt to move large numbers of the population on short notice out of crowded cities into areas of greater safety. But it is equally clear, particularly against the background of last week end's detonation of an airborne hydrogen bomb-equivalent to ten million tons of t.n.t.-by the U.S. authorities at the Bikini proving grounds, that it will not be sufficient for civil defence purposes to counsel people to take shelter in their cellars. It will be recalled that at the first detonation two years ago a crater was created in the ground 178 feet deep. To protect ourselves against the menace of the H-bomb, something more than a policy of "duck and cover" is required; and that distance is, for the present at least, the only effective defence weapon against the H-bomb. It is because of our conviction that this is so that we, together with the other NATO countries, are testing evacuation to determine the extent to which it can provide an effective answer to the threat of this particular instrument of warfare.

[Later;1

On the orders of the day:

Topic:   CIVIL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   EVACUATION OF CITIES-STATEMENT BY FIELD MARSHAL MONTGOMERY
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PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. G. R. Pearkes (Esquimalt-Saanich):

May I ask a supplementary question of the Minister of National Health and Welfare? Was not Field Marshal Montgomery referring to the protection from the fall-out which would be afforded in basements rather than the actual bursting of the bomb which might fall? Have the officials of the civil defence branch not been advocating the use of basements as protection against the fallout?

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Subtopic:   EVACUATION OF CITIES-STATEMENT BY FIELD MARSHAL MONTGOMERY
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Minister of National Health and Welfare)

Liberal

Mr. Martin:

Mr. Speaker, if Field Marshal Montgomery was referring to the dangers of the fall-out, then, of course, there is no disagreement as to what should be done. Obviously basements and shelters at least three feet in the ground are at the present time the known available effective defences against the fall-out. I was not present when Field Marshal Montgomery spoke to the newspapermen and I can only speak from hearsay and interpret what he actually did say, but my judgment is that he had reference to the European scene and that he was thinking particularly of the period when we might be confronted with intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Topic:   CIVIL DEFENCE
Subtopic:   EVACUATION OF CITIES-STATEMENT BY FIELD MARSHAL MONTGOMERY
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HOUSING

CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION


On the orders of the day:


PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Donald M. Fleming (Eglinlon):

May I

ask the Minister of Public Works what consideration is being given to the situation arising out of the announcement by Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation that it is suspending all loans in the green belt area around Ottawa, particularly in the light of the fact that various persons have acquired properties and options on properties in that area, upon which they had expected to erect homes?

Topic:   HOUSING
Subtopic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO SUSPENSION OF LOANS
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LIB

Robert Henry Winters (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Hon. Robert H. Winters (Minister of Public Works):

The decision to suspend loans has been made pending the report of the joint committee, which is now studying the operations of the federal district commission. What will happen beyond that depends on the nature of the report and perhaps on other circumstances that might have to be considered at the time. In the meantime, at least one of the builders who had options and had taken steps to proceed has had his loan reconsidered, and there has been an extension given to him. I know of no other outstanding cases that need to be considered at this time.

Topic:   HOUSING
Subtopic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO SUSPENSION OF LOANS
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May 24, 1956