March 29, 1954

PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell:

When the warm weather comes.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

It is a serious problem affecting a great many, and it seems to me that the good name of the government is at stake in its attitude towards its former employees. I hope the minister will be prepared to discuss this matter in a different vein the next time it is raised in the house.

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Item agreed to. 564. To authorize and provide for adjustment payments in respect of subsidies previously paid and administrative expenses incurred by: (a) Commodity Prices Stabilization Corporation Ltd., and (b) the Minister of Finance on behalf of Her Majesty, pursuant to the agreement entered into between the said corporation and Her Majesty on the 25th day of June, 1953, under the authority of order in council P.C. 1953-868 dated the 1st day of June, 1953, $310,000.


PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell:

Will the minister give a word of explanation about item 564? What I should like to have is a word about the history of the corporation since the war. The last report of the corporation I have been able to get is that of 1946.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

The Commodity Prices Stabilization Corporation, as my hon. friend will recall, was one of the agencies set up by the government in connection with the price control program to administer subsidies and the like. Since the end of the war it has been on a liquidating basis. It has simply been kept in existence in order to pay off outstanding claims. In June of last year an order in council was passed stating that the C.P.S.C. had fulfilled its purpose and it was directed to surrender its charter. All assets were to be transferred to Her Majesty and provision was made for the discharge of outstanding liabilities. The Minister of Finance was authorized accordingly to execute an agreement with the company which provided -I will not go into all the details-for the payment over of moneys to the crown and the crown was to dispose of these moneys first by paying all outstanding liabilities, second, by paying any claim that might be made by Joy Oil Limited, which was the largest claim outstanding and which was under litigation, and third, by paying the government the balance of advances to the company.

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell:

Is it practically cleaned up?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

It is practically cleaned up. I think this will perhaps be as close to the final clean-up as possible. The Joy Oil claim has now been settled. There are sundry

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administrative expenses which have been incurred by the crown and the vote of $310,000 is required for the administrative expenses together with the Joy Oil settlement and to allow for any further minor payments that may come up during the current fiscal year, the year which will end in the next day or two.

To give an indication of the way the assets of the former corporation stand, of accounts receivable of $72,207.70, $4,027.78 has been collected, leaving uncollected accounts at $68,179.92. As the committee will appreciate, these accounts have been outstanding for a very considerable time, and I would not place a very high value on them.

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Item agreed to. 565. Grants to municipalities in lieu of taxes on federal property-To provide for payments to municipalities in accordance with the Municipal Grants Act, and the rural municipal grants regulations established by order in council of August 6, 1952, P.C. 3729; and to provide for payments to municipalities under order in council of July 19, 1950, P.C. 3456, in respect of the cost of medical and hospital services and supplies furnished to federal employees and other persons specified therein-further amount required including authority to regard the admiralty properties in the city of St. John's, Newfoundland, as federal property notwithstanding that formal transfer of administration has not been completed, $343,733.


CCF

Alfred Claude Ellis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Ellis:

Would the minister outline the formula by which grants are made to municipalities under the Municipal Grants Act?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

I could do that, but I wonder if my hon. friend would be content to allow his question to stand. On the order paper I have a resolution preceding the introduction of a bill to amend the Municipal Grants Act which I hope we will be dealing with next week. I am going to make a rather full statement at that time both with respect to present policy and the contemplated changes. If it meets my hon. friend's convenience, I would prefer to do it then, but if he wants a brief explanation now I would be happy to give it to him.

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CCF

Alfred Claude Ellis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Ellis:

I think that will be satisfactory. I merely wanted the explanation before we came to the main estimates.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

I hope, if the house leader so arranges it, to reach the amendments to the Municipal Grants Act next week some time, and at that time I hope we may have a full discussion of the whole problem.

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CCF

Alfred Claude Ellis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Ellis:

That will be quite satisfactory.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

I should add that this vote is simply to implement existing policy.

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LIB

Leonard T. Stick

Liberal

Mr. Stick:

There is a reference to "further amount required including authority to regard the admiralty properties in the city

of St. John's, Newfoundland, as federal property". What was the total amount paid for the admiralty properties?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

I will see if I have that here.

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LIB

Leonard T. Stick

Liberal

Mr. Stick:

Will this finish the payments to Great Britain on that account?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

I am afraid I do not have that breakdown here but I will have it when we debate the main item. Total payments in St. John's, Newfoundland, in 1953-54 are $15,741, but I do not have the detail here as to how that is broken down.

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LIB

Leonard T. Stick

Liberal

Mr. Stick:

You can give it to me some other time.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

I will do it when we are on the Municipal Grants Act.

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March 29, 1954