March 10, 1954

PC

Walter Gilbert Dinsdale

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Dinsdale:

Is the bird on the new badge an eagle, an albatross or an "albatreagle"?

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxton:

Oh, unquestionably an eagle.

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

I think the Minister of National Defence does need to clear up one point. Is it not correct that permission to use any badge with the crown is obtained not from a corresponding branch of the services in the United Kingdom but from the sovereign or representative of the sovereign? Surely the minister is not suggesting that the Royal Canadian Air Force, the Canadian artillery or any other branch of the services obtained permission from a corresponding branch of the services of the United Kingdom.

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxion:

I think I have already dealt with this matter. Whatever was done in approving a badge was done in 1923. A very careful search has been made of the records, and so far as we on this side of the Atlantic can ascertain the matter was handled in the way I have described. Whether or not that was right is another question, but that is the way it was dealt with.

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

Mr. Speaker, there is-

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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LIB

Louis-René Beaudoin (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. I think I have perhaps given more latitude than I am accustomed

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Inquiries of the Ministry to because I hoped that by doing so this subject might be cleared up once and for all.. However, it appears that hon. members wish to continue asking supplementary questions requiring long supplementary answers. I am afraid we will get into a position where other members who have questions on other subjects may not have a chance to ask them. I think we have had sufficient questions and answers on this subject, and I would ask the hon. members to let others carry on who have other questions on other subjects.

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

May I just say this-

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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LIB

Louis-René Beaudoin (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. The hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre.

On the orders of the day:

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

May I direct a question to the Minister of National Defence? Now that a grave mistake has been discovered and the minister is aware of it, in the removal of the cap badge, will the old cap badge be restored?

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxton:

That is the kind of thing, about which an announcement is made if and when it is done.

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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POST OFFICE

LETTER CARRIERS


On the orders of the day:


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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Postmaster General, supplementary to a question I asked him on the orders of the day on March 1. Have protests now been received from letter carriers' associations against the Post Office Department's order of February 26 altering the long standing practice of the annual holidays of letter carriers being arranged strictly on the basis of seniority? Will this order-I refer to circular order No. 299D-be reviewed in the light of these protests?

Topic:   POST OFFICE
Subtopic:   LETTER CARRIERS
Sub-subtopic:   CHANGE IN BASIS FOR ANNUAL HOLIDAYS
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LIB

Louis-René Beaudoin (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

It would seem to me this question could be answered if it were put on the order paper. I think it should be.

Topic:   POST OFFICE
Subtopic:   LETTER CARRIERS
Sub-subtopic:   CHANGE IN BASIS FOR ANNUAL HOLIDAYS
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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I believe there is an element of time in this matter because- *

Topic:   POST OFFICE
Subtopic:   LETTER CARRIERS
Sub-subtopic:   CHANGE IN BASIS FOR ANNUAL HOLIDAYS
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   POST OFFICE
Subtopic:   LETTER CARRIERS
Sub-subtopic:   CHANGE IN BASIS FOR ANNUAL HOLIDAYS
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An hon. Member:

Sit down.

Topic:   POST OFFICE
Subtopic:   LETTER CARRIERS
Sub-subtopic:   CHANGE IN BASIS FOR ANNUAL HOLIDAYS
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

-when the order was posted in the post offices employees were given a limited length of time in which to apply for the positions involved in this whole question.

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Inquiries of the Ministry I think it is of sufficient urgency to those concerned that the Postmaster General should be permitted to answer the question.

Topic:   POST OFFICE
Subtopic:   LETTER CARRIERS
Sub-subtopic:   CHANGE IN BASIS FOR ANNUAL HOLIDAYS
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LIB

Alcide Côté (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Hon. Alcide Cote (Postmaster General):

Mr. Speaker, I just received notice of the question my hon. friend has asked a few seconds ago. We have received some protests. I do not know what has been the result of the consideration given the question in the meetings held in the department with my officials, but I will be glad to look into the matter. I may say immediately to my hon. friend that the whole question has been given careful consideration in the best interests of the carriers' associations as well as the public.

Topic:   POST OFFICE
Subtopic:   LETTER CARRIERS
Sub-subtopic:   CHANGE IN BASIS FOR ANNUAL HOLIDAYS
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March 10, 1954