March 10, 1954

LIB

Mr. Pinard: (Parliamentary Assistant to the Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

1. None.

2. Not applicable.

3. None. However, one of the clerical staff members of the Soviet embassy is described as clerk of the commercial counsellor's office, although at present there is no commercial counsellor.

4. Not applicable.

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Wheat Oats (bushels) Barley32,826,134 11,635,869 6,449,37930,670,432 10,316,291 6,152,6292,018,886 885,874 589,20332,995,891 13,722,209 11,204,73239,097,378 18,058,108 14,764,8912,939,427 2,617,880 2,114,51135,671,901 9,266,922 10,433,64098,132,932 31,352,118 30,290,0295,708,895 3,001,791 2,008,014

Topic:   RUSSIA AND CANADA
Subtopic:   TRADE REPRESENTATIVES
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QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS

R.C.A.F.-NON-MILITARY FLYING

PC

Mr. Green:

Progressive Conservative

1. During 1953, did the Royal Canadian Air Force engage in flying between points other than points on class I scheduled routes for any departments of the government except the Department of National Defence?

2. If so, (a) what types of aircraft were employed and how many hours on each type; (b) what departments and how many passengers, pounds of cargo and pounds of mail were carried for each department?

3. During 1953, did the Royal Canadian Air Force engage in any flying within Canada except for the Department of National Defence or other government departments?

4. If so, (a) for whom; (b) what types of aircraft were employed, and how many hours on each type; (c) how many passengers and pounds of cargo were carried in each case?

5. Was any remuneration received for such flying?

6. If so, (a) from whom and how much in each case; (b) what was the rate charged per mile, per nour or per ton mile?

2846 HOUSE OF

Inquiries of the Ministry

Topic:   QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic:   R.C.A.F.-NON-MILITARY FLYING
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COMMUNIST PUBLICATIONS

SC

Mr. Hansell:

Social Credit

1. Does the government consider there are any publications in Canada which are communist, or follow the communist line?

2. If so, how many are there?

3. What is the name of each, and what is the address of each one published?

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Subtopic:   COMMUNIST PUBLICATIONS
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ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE

INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Hon. Brooke Claxfon (Minister of National Defence):

Mr. Speaker, some days ago I was asked by the hon. member for Brandon-Souris (Mr. Dinsdale) a question regarding the cap badge in use in certain headgear of the R.C.A.F. I should now like to reply to that question.

There are five designs of cap badge in use in the R.C.A.F.-one for officers of air rank, two for other officers and first-class warrant officers, and two for other personnel.

The cap badges for officers and W.O.l's are a crown, eagle and laurels for use on general service caps and a brass crown and eagle for use on field service-that is, wedge-caps. Subject to minor changes in design and material, these remain the same as they have been since before the second world war.

For other personnel the badge on general service caps continues to be the initials of the R.C.A.F. in the centre of a laurel wreath, surmounted by a small crown. On the field service-that is wedge-cap-and the winter cap the badge is an eagle.

The recent interest in R.C.A.F. cap badges relates solely to the badge on the field service -that is wedge-cap. It may be observed that, in addition to this badge which is an eagle, there are two small brass buttons on the front of this cap which display a crown, an eagle and the letters "R.C.A.F."

The eagle was introduced for use on these two types of caps because the badge with the initials "R.C.A.F." in the laurel wreath was considered too large and too heavy in appearance for use on these caps.

The new badge was differentiated from that of the officers and W.O.l's, as has been the practice in the R.C.A.F. since 1925. Cap badges for officers and men are also different in the R.A.F., R.A.A.F., R.N.Z.A.F., R.C.N. and R.N. The badge in question was introduced by revised dress orders of the R.C.A.F. which were approved on July 7, 1952, on the authority of the chief of air staff, as provided for by paragraph 36.01 of Queen's regulations and orders for the air force. Though the revised dress orders for the R.C.A.F. were

adopted in 1952, the badge only came into general use on this type of headgear early in 1953.

There is, of course, nothing in the suggestion that this in any way affects the traditions or sentimental associations of the R.C.A.F.

The eagle is generally in use by the air forces of many nations. All members of the R.C.A.F. wear the crown, the eagle and the initials R.C.A.F. on all buttons on their jackets and caps. All members of the R.C.A.F. wear the word "Canada" on their shoulders.

As has been stated, a particular type of badge was adopted by the R.C.A.F. for use by certain personnel on two out of several types of headgear. The change was made by the chief of staff and the other air members, acting within the authority given to them, and it would appear that they are the people who could be relied on to do nothing which would adversely affect the traditions or sentimental attachment of their own service in which they had spent many years of their lives.

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Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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PC

Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

Can any branch of the services on orders from the head of the particular branch-for example, the chief of the air staff-design and approve of a badge with a crown upon it without the consent of Her Majesty?

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxton:

No.

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PC

Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

May I ask a supplementary question? When such a badge is approved, can it be discarded without the approval of Her Majesty?

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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxion:

I think the position regarding that is rather obscure, but I believe that could be done. However, that was not done in this case. A new badge was approved in accordance with the authority, which did not have a crown and which did not require the sovereign's consent.

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PC

Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

According to the minister, approval was received for the crown and then the badge was changed.

Topic:   ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CHANGE IN WEDGE CAP INSIGNIA
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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxion:

I never said that.

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PC

Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

I want to ask this question. Was it changed with the approval of Her Majesty?

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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxion:

I did not say this badge was approved by Her Majesty or by the crown. A badge which had been in use in the R.A.F. was adopted by the R.C.A.F. about 1923, and no approval was then considered necessary or was obtained. In addition to that badge,

a new badge without the crown was adopted by the air force in 1952. No approval was necessary.

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PC

Julian Harcourt Ferguson

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Ferguson:

The minister apparently misunderstood one of my questions. I asked him if a badge with the crown on it could be used without the approval of Her Majesty. His answer was no, that it could not be used without the approval of Her Majesty. It was a straight question and a straight answer. Having given the answer that the badge could not be used without Her Majesty's authority or that of the reigning sovereign of the country at the time, the minister now says that approval was not received for that badge and it was changed. One of his answers must be wrong. I will ask the question again. Was permission received to use a badge with the crown on it? Was approval received from Her Majesty?

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LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxion:

Approval, Mr. Speaker, I would assume was given to the Royal Canadian Air Force for the use of a practically identical badge by the Royal Air Force. When the R.C.A.F. came into existence in 1923 I am informed that with the consent of the Royal Air Force its badge was adopted for use in Canada with the additional insertion of the initial "C". That has remained the situation. In 1928 an order in council was passed requiring the armed forces to secure approval of badges using the crown.

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March 10, 1954