May 13, 1953

CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Will the minister tell us whether or not a decision has yet been reached to go ahead with the construction of a national library?

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LIB

Frederick Gordon Bradley (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Bradley:

A decision has been reached to go ahead with the construction of the national library, and the site has been selected. I do not think the plans have yet been prepared. I do not think there is any amount in the public works estimates for construction, but it is proposed to proceed with the construction of a national library as soon as possible.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Any timetable?

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LIB

Frederick Gordon Bradley (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Bradley:

No, I do not think so.

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

What is the site?

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LIB

Frederick Gordon Bradley (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Bradley:

Well, now, I speak subject to correction, but it is the site of one of the temporary buildings. I think it is No. 1.

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Item agreed to. Public printing and stationery-313. Departmental administration, $497,818.


PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

There seems to be an increase of about $105,000 in departmental administration. I can understand some of the other things better than that. Can the minister explain the necessity for that increase?

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LIB

Frederick Gordon Bradley (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Bradley:

I think the explanation is that in the past there have been a number of these positions paid for out of the advance account, and they have now been transferred to administration. They will no longer be paid out of the advance account, that is the $4 million which is advanced by the Department of Finance as a sort of revolving trading fund.

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Item agreed to. 691. Plant equipment and replacements-further amount required, $104,323.


PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

Before we leave this general subject of printing and stationery, could the minister tell me where provision is made for the printing of the revised statutes of Canada. They do not come under the item for printing and binding of annual statutes.

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LIB

Frederick Gordon Bradley (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Bradley:

I understand that is in the

justice department estimates.

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

In connection with 691, why is it that we have vote No. 317 for the same purpose amounting to $341,518, which is an increase of $144,000, and now we have on top of that a supplementary vote of $104,000. Why,is it that they cannot estimate better than that?

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LIB

Frederick Gordon Bradley (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Bradley:

Mr. Chairman, at the time

the estimates were prepared the department did not have its position sufficiently far advanced to make a recommendation for certain special plant and equipment which they required. This is an amount to cover that additional plant and equipment.

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Item agreed to. Office of the chief electoral officer- 56. Salaries and expenses of office. $66,070.


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I should like to say one or

two things with respect to this item. First of all, I wish to draw to the attention of the Secretary of State a newspaper account that appeared in the Winnipeg Free Press of Tuesday, March 10, 1953. On page 12 of that issue there is an article headed "Mechanics of Election heard by Liberal group." I shall read one or two sentences from that article.

Elucidation of the "Mechanics of an Election" was given by Kenneth McKenzie, headquarters

Supply-Secretary of State

secretary of Manitoba Liberal Progressive association at a meeting of greater Winnipeg women's Liberal association, Monday in the Y.W.C.A.

The next sentence is within quotation marks, and reads as follows:

"Enumerators can make the difference between winning and losing an election," he stated "for they bring in information which is the basis of the whole campaign. Poll canvassers work on lists compiled by them and party adherents are offered assistance in getting to the polls-everything from transportation to baby sitters".

I feel, Mr. Chairman, that that statement is a reflection on the chief electoral officer whose estimates we now have before us, and on the satisfactory way in which elections are generally run, at least in my experience. On many occasions well-deserved tributes have been paid in this house to the splendid way in which Mr. Nelson Castonguay carries on this work, as did his father before him. But I should like to know whether this represents the view of the Liberal party, that enumerators paid out of public funds for work in connection with the election are regarded as working for the party and as being primarily on the job to get information to be of assistance to party adherents.

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LIB

Frederick Gordon Bradley (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Bradley:

I have no knowledge of this particular article which has been mentioned by my hon. friend. I can only say that, from the standpoint of the chief electoral officer, that is not the case.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I am glad to have the Secretary of State make that pronouncement. I hope the Liberal party across this country will pay attention to it.

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Item agreed to.


LIB

William Alfred Robinson (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

Item 78. Is it carried?

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May 13, 1953