May 12, 1953

LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. L. S. St. Laurent (Prime Minister):

Mr. Chairman, may I have your indulgence and the indulgence of the committee for a moment to make a very short announcement. It was felt by the government that in view of the prominent participation in Canada's official delegation to attend the coronation of Her Majesty the Queen in Westminster Abbey on June 2 next, of the Right Hon. Thibaudeau Rinfret, Chief Justice of Canada, the Hon. Elie Beauregard, Speaker of the Senate, the Hon. William Ross Macdonald, Speaker of the House of Commons, and the Hon. George Alexander Drew. Leader of the Opposition, it would be fitting if they did so as members of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada.

The recommendation for their appointment was approved by His Excellency the Governor General and late this afternoon the privy councillor's oath of office was taken before Mr. Justice Kerwin, in his capacity as deputy of the governor general, by the Speaker of the Senate, the Speaker of the House of Commons and the Leader of the Opposition.

Appointments to Canadian Privy Council The Chief Justice of Canada is already overseas and, in his case, the taking of this oath of office has had to be postponed until his return to Canada.

I am sure all of us in the House of Commons would wish to join in congratulations to the two distinguished members of the house who have just become privy councillors. Speaking now for this side of the house only, I may perhaps be permitted to add that it is natural for us to hope that, though he has become a member of Her Majesty's Canadian council, my hon. friend the Leader of the Opposition may continue for many years to discharge the responsibilities of his present important office.

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George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Hon. George A. Drew (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Chairman, I do wish to express my very deep appreciation of the honour which has been conferred upon me in being made a member of the privy council at this time. I do accept the spirit in which it has been done, as a recognition of the complete unanimity of purpose with which our respects are paid to Her Majesty the Queen at the time of the coronation on June

2. I very much appreciate the kind words of congratulation of the Prime Minister, and I shall do my utmost to carry out the responsibilities of the office which I have accepted.

May I say in the same spirit and in the same vein as the closing words of the Prime Minister that while for the present I may perhaps not be taken completely into the confidence of the ordinary meetings of some who are members of the privy council, I nevertheless do very greatly respect the traditions of the oath of office and the privilege of being one of Her Majesty's privy councillors for Canada.

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William Ross Macdonald (Speaker of the House of Commons; Leader of the Government in the Senate)

Liberal

Hon. W. Ross Macdonald (Speaker of fhe House of Commons):

Mr. Chairman, I wish also to express my deep appreciation to the Prime Minister for having been sworn of the privy council this afternoon. It is indeed an ancient institution with great traditions. I consider it a great honour to be a member of the privy council and a loyal subject under Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. I am deeply grateful to the members of the House of Commons for the acclaim with which they greeted my name as one of those who was sworn of the privy council this afternoon. I can assure members of the House of Commons that I consider it not only a great honour but also a great responsibility, and that I shall try to carry out the great responsibilities of the high office as a member of Her Majesty's privy council.

Supply-Transport

I wish to thank the Prime Minister for having recommended me to become a member of Her Majesty's Privy Council in Canada.

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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Chairman, it so happened that word of this historic announcement reached me a few minutes before seven o'clock, so that I was able to contact by telephone my leader, the hon. member for Rosetown-Biggar. He asked me to express to the house his regret that it was not possible for him to be here at this moment, and in his absence to extend on his behalf as well as on behalf of our entire group our heartiest congratulations to the Speaker, to the Leader of the Opposition, to the Speaker of the other house and to the chief justice on the high honour that has been accorded them today. My leader said to me, and all of us in this group feel that way about it, that it was a very gracious gesture on the part of the Prime Minister to include the name of the Leader of the Opposition, along with the two Speakers and the chief justice in the recommendation that he has made.

We are very happy to join with the rest of the house in honouring these distinguished Canadians on their appointment to Her Majesty's Privy Council for Canada.

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Ernest George Hansell

Social Credit

Mr. E. G. Hansell (Macleod):

Mr. Chairman, the leader of the Social Credit party is unable to be present in the chamber at this time, but I am sure he would wish me to express our sentiments in respect to these appointments. We too heartily congratulate these gentlemen on their appointment. We trust and in fact we can say that they will carry their responsibilities with honour and dignity.

I wish to join with the hon. member for Winnipeg North Centre in expressing our sentiments toward the appointments announced by the Prime Minister. I think I can add that this is in reality a picture of democracy in action.

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Some hon. Members:

Hear, hear.

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LIB

Louis-René Beaudoin (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The Chairman:

We shall continue discussing the items.

The house in committee of supply, Mr. Beaudoin in the chair.

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORT 475. Degaussing and strengthening of sea-going merchant ships of Canadian registry of 1,000 gross tons and over, $500,000.

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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Green:

This item provides for the degaussing and strengthening of Canadian sea-going merchant ships of 1,000 gross tons and over. Can the minister tell the commit-

tee what progress has been made with that work?

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Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

During the year 1952-53 we were successful in placing certain degaussing equipment on a number of vessels. They are the following: The new icebreaker, d'Iberville, *which was degaussed and stiffened at a cost of $55,000; the D. C. Everest, of Marathon Company Limited, at a cost of $17,000; the motor vessel Beaverbrae; the motor vessels Canadian Challenger, Canadian Constructor and Canadian Cruiser, all belonging to the Canadian National Steamships Limited, at a cost of $120,000. Repairs to degaussing equipment on ships previously fitted during world war II, including purchase of cable required, $45,000.

For this year we have the following new ships which we propose to degauss: the S.S. Markland, one of the tankers now being built at Lauzon for Andros Company; a second tanker being built for the same company at Lauzon; the Port aux Basques ferry between Sydney and Port aux Basques; one dry cargo ship for Saguenay Terminals; two ore carriers ordered by Hanna Company; and the three Princess ships-Princess Patricia, Princess Marguerite, and Prince George on the west coast, together with the tanker Imperial Halifax. Those are the ships we have in mind in this estimate.

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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Green:

Has a start been made yet on degaussing cargo vessels?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

On some of the cargo vessels.

I named a number of them here. There is a new cargo vessel, a dry cargo vessel projected for Saguenay Terminals-I mentioned them earlier today. There are 16 cargo ships already completed together with those in the list I mentioned earlier.

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PC

Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Green:

On the list there was no mention of any of the wartime ships. All of the work seems to have been done on new vessels.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Well, I have them here. There are 16 of them and it will take some time to put them on the record.

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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Green:

There is no need to do that.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

May I send them over so that my hon. friend may see them?

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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Green:

Is it the intention to do this work on all the cargo vessels?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

Oh, yes.

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Item agreed to. 478. Railway employees' provident fund-To supplement pension allowances under the provisions of the Intercolonial and Prince Edward Island Railway Employees' Provident Fund Act so as to make the minimum payment during the period January 1, 1953, to March 31, 1954, the sum of $30 per month instead of $20 as fixed by the said act, $12,650.


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I should like to say once again that I am glad to support this item, the purpose of which is to augment the pension otherwise provided by statute to retired employees of the old Intercolonial Railway. The statute, which is a very old one, provided a pension of $20 a month. Many years ago the House of Commons realized that this was not sufficient and it was agreed that an item should be included in the estimates to augment that pension by another $10, bringing it up to $30 a month.

Not only do I support this being done, but this item has been in here every year for 30 years and it seems to me to establish the validity of the principle that I was arguing for today, namely that there should be a similar item in the estimates to augment the $25 a month basic pension of retired employees of the Canadian National Railways.

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Item agreed to. Airways and airports-radio aviation services- 479. Administration, operation and maintenance, $5,416,530.


May 12, 1953