March 6, 1953

CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

I also note that the purchase

was made not by tender but by negotiation. I am certainly not going to question the legal implications of this transaction. As far as I am concerned and as far as I know the transaction was perfectly legal. Neither am I going to question the integrity of the Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys; but I question the propriety of such a transaction. I question whether a cabinet 68108-171

The Budget-Mr. Argue minister who controls a corporation should allow that corporation to enter into such negotiations with a crown company which is an emanation of the crown. I think a mistake was made. I think it would have been far better to have advertised for tenders. Surely nothing could have been lost because, according to the press report, the minister has made a statement that he paid more than it was worth; it was an inflated price that he paid. That being so, what was there to lose in advertising for tenders, having them submitted, and having the transaction fair and above board in every respect?

I understand that in the United States Mr. Charles Wilson sold all his stock in General Motors when he joined the Eisenhower administration. If I remember correctly the Minister of Trade and Commerce (Mr. Howe) has disposed of any interest he had in the company that bears his own name. I do not go so far as to say that any member of the government should get rid of any company in which he may have a controlling interest, but certainly it is very unwise indeed for any minister of the government to have a company owned by him entering into a business transaction to purchase the equipment owned by a crown corporation. It certainly would have been much better if tenders had been asked for, and if, in the ordinary course of the way business is done, on that basis it went to the person or the company who had submitted the highest tender.

I turn now to deal with some aspects of another department. I hold in my hand a table showing the income tax collected from farmers by provinces in 1950. It was taken from the government's own publication, taxation statistics. If the house has no objection I should like to have it printed in Hansard.

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LIB

John Sylvester Aloysius Sinnott

Liberal

Mr. Sinnoii:

Read it out.

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Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Is it agreed?

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John Sylvester Aloysius Sinnott

Liberal

Mr. Sinnoll:

Read it out.

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

Mr. Speaker, if I have not the consent of the house, I shall of course have to deal with the table as best I can, without having it printed in Hansard, in the time that I have at my disposal.

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Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

A question arose a few days ago with respect to this matter and I required the hon. member to read his table in full. Objection was raised by one member only to having the table placed in Hansard. It occurs to me that where there is general consent to the printing of the table in Hansard the house might wish me to allow it to be done. Or do the members feel that one hon. member should be allowed to hold up the printing of a table?

The Budget-Mr. Argue

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James Joseph McCann (Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. McCann:

May I inquire, what is the nature of the table?

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Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

And the use?

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

The table shows income tax paid by farmers on 1950 income. This information is all taken from the dominion bureau of statistics and other official publications.

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Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

Who prepared it?

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

It is information on the net income of farm operators from farm operations; number of farmers, 1951 census; net income per farmer; income tax paid per farmer.

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Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

It is important we should

know who prepared the table.

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Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

I prepared them myself.

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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

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Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

As long as that is clear I willingly consent.

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CCF

Hazen Robert Argue

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Argue:

I took the official statistics from the various publications, and there are certain calculations in this table that I made myself. I have checked them very carefully. I hope they are correct; I believe they are correct.

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Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

As long as it is clear that the table was prepared by the hon. member who is making the speech I would be very happy to have it printed in Hansard, but I think the use must be made clear.

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Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Is it agreed?

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John Sylvester Aloysius Sinnott

Liberal

Mr. Sinnotl:

Mr. Speaker, that privilege was denied me last evening, but not by this member.

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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

A new beginning today.

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March 6, 1953