May 30, 1952

REDISTRIBUTION

BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA

PC

Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. E. D. Fulton (Kamloops):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of privilege. I base it on citation 198 of Beauchesne's Parliamentary-Rules and Forms, third edition, dealing with with statements referring to members of a committee of this house. There has just come to my attention an article appearing in the Vancouver Province of May 26, 1952, over which there is the heading, "Redistribution Pattern Appears". There is in this case no map in the paper as there was in another case but there is a very complete and detailed description of the proposed changes in the boundaries of constituencies in that province. Not only is there a detailed description but there is a statement that the changes in boundaries of some of the ridings have been agreed to by the members of the British Columbia subcommittee. I want to make it clear at the outset that as a member of that subcommittee I have not agreed to any such changes as outlined here. The article states:

Boundaries of the latter-

The reference is to one of the proposed new ridings.

-are far from settled by the B.C. subcommittee of the house committee on redistribution. But the outline of the former-

That refers to another proposed change.

-is fairly well set. It will run across Vancouver from east to west between the present Vancouver South and Vancouver-Quadra ridings-

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. I doubt whether this is a question of privilege that should be raised at this time in the house. The hon. member apparently is referring to certain matters that have taken place in the committee.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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PC

Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fulton:

No, Mr. Speaker. Might I be allowed' to direct Your Honour's attention to the fact that I am not referring to something which took place in the committee but rather to a report outside to the effect that the committee has agreed on something which it has not agreed upon at all. In other words, the report is saying that something has taken place in the subcommittee which has not taken place.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. I do not think that is a question of privilege to be raised at this time in the house. If it is an inaccurate report the hon. member can say that it is an inaccurate report, but I do not think I should allow a long statement with respect to it at this time. The committee is sitting and the inaccuracy can be corrected at the sittings of the committee.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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PC

Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fulion:

On a point of order, I would refer Your Honour to citation 198 which reads:

Scandalous charges or imputations directed against members of a select committee are equivalent to libelous charges brought against the house itself . . .

The point of order is that I have been charged with having agreed to something in that committee-

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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?

Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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PC

Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fulton:

-which I have not agreed to.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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?

An hon. Member:

Lese-majeste.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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PC

Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fulion:

Some of the proposed charges certainly are scandalous.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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PC

Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fulton:

What I wish to raise by way of privilege is the fact that I have not agreed, I want to make it clear that I have not agreed to most of the changes outlined.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

I think the hon. member has done that now.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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PC

Edmund Davie Fulton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fulton:

On another question of privilege directed to the same subject, I want to say that as a member of the house I feel if there are detailed changes to be made which are apparently within the knowledge of the Liberal members of that subcommittee then they should be made known first to that subcommittee and not to the press outside of the house.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Hear, hear.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. I think that matter should be raised in the committee, and not in the house.

Topic:   REDISTRIBUTION
Subtopic:   BOUNDARIES OF RIDINGS IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT IN VANCOUVER "PROVINCE"
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EMERGENCY POWERS ACT

TABLING OF ORDER IN COUNCIL FOR CONTINUANCE OF ACT

LIB

Louis Stephen St-Laurent (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Righi Hon. L. S. St. Laurent (Prime Minister):

I should like to lay on the table

Beef-Floor Price

two copies of order in council P.C. 3197, dated today, based upon the resolutions of the houses of parliament and giving effect to them in extending the duration of the Emergency Powers Act up to and including the 30th day of May, 1953.

Topic:   EMERGENCY POWERS ACT
Subtopic:   TABLING OF ORDER IN COUNCIL FOR CONTINUANCE OF ACT
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May 30, 1952