December 19, 1951

LIB

Brooke Claxton (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. Claxton:

That is correct, but we have not had that information officially from Korea as yet. We do not know about any others.

Topic:   INQUIRY AS TO CANADIANS HELD BY COMMUNISTS
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PUBLIC SERVICE

PREVAILING RATES EMPLOYEES


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker I should like to direct a question to the Prime Minister arising out of his announcement on Friday last regarding pay increases for the civil service and other government employees. Is consideration being given to an immediate review of the position of prevailing rates employees such as might lead to an increase for them comparable to the increase which is being given to classified civil servants?

Inquiries of the Ministry Right Hon. L. S. St. Laurent (Prime Minister): My understanding is that these prevailing rates are reviewed yearly. I cannot say from memory when the last review took place but it is a continuing process and the effort is to keep the prevailing rates employees on a par with those in private employment doing the same kind of work.

Topic:   PUBLIC SERVICE
Subtopic:   PREVAILING RATES EMPLOYEES
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO PAY INCREASE
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I wonder if the Prime

Minister would permit me to express the hope that any changes that are made might be effective from the same date, namely, December 1, 1951.

Topic:   PUBLIC SERVICE
Subtopic:   PREVAILING RATES EMPLOYEES
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO PAY INCREASE
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CAPITAL COST ALLOWANCES

DEFERMENT


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Defence Production; Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Right Hon. C. D. Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

The hon. member for Greenwood asked me a series of questions on December 17 about the effect of various government measures upon capital expenditure in Canada. As I said at the time, he is really asking me to read the minds of our businessmen who have not done things they might have done. My answer can only be in the most general terms. In the first place, I do know from personal contact with businessmen that deferred capital cost allowances have influenced investment decisions in a number of cases. But, of course, one cannot make statistical calculations on the basis of that kind of evidence.

It should be borne in mind in trying to assess the effects of the deferment of depreciation that such deferment does not apply generally. There are a number of exemptions set forth in the regulations, and the Minister of Trade and Commerce is authorized to issue certificates entitling the taxpayer to current allowances where the properties are being acquired for carrying on certain basic industries listed in the regulations, and where the investment makes a direct contribution to the defence effort. In other words, the policy is selective in character and that is the way it is working.

As a means of getting some general impression of the way the policy is working, I asked the officers of my department to compare the estimates of 1951 capital expenditure with those for 1950. With the permission of the house I should like to put the table on Hansard. It is necessarily a very tentative analysis and is subject to revision when later

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Inquiries of the Ministry and more up-to-date information is available. The table is as follows:

Per cent change in the volume of investment, fall estimate 1951 over 1950 Total private and public investment + 7

Capital expenditures not subject

to income tax + 3

Capital expenditures subject to

income tax . +11

Capital expenditures eligible for capital cost allowances without certificate of eligibility +2

Capital expenditures eligible for capital cost allowances subject to the issuance of a

certificate of eligibility* 1 . +83

Capital expenditures not eligible for capital cost allowances1 _ g

1These estimates were made before the recent amendment embodied in order in council P.C. 6384, which enables the Minister of Trade and Commerce to issue certificates for structures under construction as of April 10, 1951, and properties which the taxpayer was obligated to acquire at that date.

The table shows that where capital expenditures are assumed to be eligible for a certificate there is an increase of over 80 per cent in volume between 1950 and 1951, whereas in those cases where the taxpayer is likely to be subject to deferment of allowances, unless he had a commitment to purchase on April 10, 1951, or was in course of construction, there is a decrease of 8 per cent in volume.

I am not suggesting that deferred capital cost allowance, which has been in effect for only eight months, is the main or only reason for these results. That may be due also in part to other government measures to which the hon. member referred, or perhaps to factors which have nothing in particular to do with government policy. All that I can say with any certainty is that the various measures we have taken to curb inflationary pressures seem to be working in the right direction.

Topic:   CAPITAL COST ALLOWANCES
Subtopic:   DEFERMENT
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO CUT-BACK IN CAPITAL EXPENDITURE
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REQUEST FOR ENGLISH "HANSARD" INDEX


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. Jean Francois Pouliot (Temiscouata):

Mr. Speaker, I do not want to be harping on any subject matter but as chairman of the debates committee I ask you, sir, to take the necessary steps so that the majority of my colleagues may receive as soon as possible the index for English Hansard of 1950 as well as the one for this session. If those who are supposed to have been working on it have not done a satisfactory job, please see

to it in the interests of all that they are replaced at the earliest possible opportunity by competent people.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ENGLISH "HANSARD" INDEX
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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Donald M. Fleming (Eglinion):

On a

question of privilege, Mr. Speaker, I think that kind of question should not be made the occasion of an inferential attack upon the efficiency of those charged with this work. I think every member who has contact with that office appreciates the competence of the debates staff and of those charged with the responsibility for preparing the index. It is a very great task. Apparently what is needed is assistance and not criticism of those already employed.

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. Poulioi:

I am not allowed to discuss it, but my friend as usual is wrong.

Topic:   REQUEST FOR ENGLISH "HANSARD" INDEX
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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

I am willing to be judged by the correctness of what I have just said.

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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order. We have had the views of both hon. members. I shall be pleased to look into the question and endeavour to have the index in the hands of members as soon as posible.

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CANADIANS WORKING IN THE UNITED STATES_____


IMMIGRATION VISAS

December 19, 1951