November 1, 1951

LIB

Stuart Sinclair Garson (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Garson:

I am speaking only from casual recollection of what originally took

place in connection with the railway bill, but I think my hon. friend will agree with me that on that original occasion a bill was to be introduced, and then there was to be a motion that the bill be not read a second time, but that the subject matter of the bill should be referred to the committee on railways, canals and telegraph lines.

Topic:   COMBINES LEGISLATION
Subtopic:   INTERIM REPORT
Sub-subtopic:   QUESTION AS TO APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE
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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

It was read a second time.

Topic:   COMBINES LEGISLATION
Subtopic:   INTERIM REPORT
Sub-subtopic:   QUESTION AS TO APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE
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LIB

Stuart Sinclair Garson (Solicitor General of Canada; Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. Garson:

But in the present instance we are faced with this position, that it has been represented to us-and we think very reasonably and fairly-that an opportunity should be given to those who are in favour of passage of the legislation in question, and those who are opposed to it, to present their views to a committee of parliament upon the subject matter.

What I am saying is this-and I hope the leader of the opposition will take note of it- that if such an opportunity is -to be given, the advice we have received, after going carefully into the matter, is that the preferable manner in which to do it is to present the resolution in the form in which we have presented it; and then, when the resolution is before the committee, to bring draft legislation in, if the committee is prepared to receive it, at an early stage in its deliberations.

Topic:   COMBINES LEGISLATION
Subtopic:   INTERIM REPORT
Sub-subtopic:   QUESTION AS TO APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE
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UNITED NATIONS

POSSIBILITY OF DISTRIBUTING REPORTS OF SPEECHES MADE AT PARIS MEETING


On the orders of the day:


LIB

Jean Lesage (Parliamentary Assistant to the Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Jean Lesage (Parliamentary Assistant to the Secretary of State for External Affairs):

Mr. Speaker, on October 24 the hon. member for Peel (Mr. Graydon) asked the Secretary of State for External Affairs (Mr. Pearson) if he would consider making available and distributing to members of the House of Commons a verbatim report of the speeches made in the plenary sessions of the United Nations meeting at Paris.

The Secretary of State for External Affairs answered that he would look into the matter. He did so before leaving, and has asked me to tell the hon. member for Peel about the difficulties, especially that of the high cost involved in such a distribution of the records. However, instructions have been given to our people in Paris to send us each day, by airmail, additional copies of the records of the plenary sessions of the United Nations. And, if it meets with the wishes of the hon. member, those additional copies can be placed at the disposal of the members of both houses of parliament in the reading room.

Topic:   UNITED NATIONS
Subtopic:   POSSIBILITY OF DISTRIBUTING REPORTS OF SPEECHES MADE AT PARIS MEETING
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PC

Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gordon Graydon (Peel):

I discussed

yesterday with the parliamentary assistant the

proposal he has just made today. I fancy that it will meet the requirements some hon. members had in mind when I raised the question. I believe the expense, to which reference has been made, would have been connected with a wider distribution than I had originally intended. It was only the first few speeches in the plenary sessions that I had in mind when I raised the question. I was not thinking about the voluminous report of the United Nations itself. So far as I am concerned, I shall be glad to accept the explanation given by the parliamentary assistant with respect to what the government proposes to do.

Topic:   UNITED NATIONS
Subtopic:   POSSIBILITY OF DISTRIBUTING REPORTS OF SPEECHES MADE AT PARIS MEETING
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NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION

MEASURE TO APPROVE AGREEMENT ON STATUS OF ORGANIZATION, NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AND INTERNATIONAL STAFF-SUGGESTION TO REFER TO COMMITTEE


On the orders of the day:


PC

Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gordon Graydon (Peel):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to ask a further question of the parliamentary assistant to the Secretary of State for External Affairs, Is it the government's intention, when it proceeds with the legislation envisaged in item No. 7 on the order paper, the measure to approve the agreement on the status of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, at the appropriate stage of proceedings to send it to the committee on external affairs for study and report?

Topic:   NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO APPROVE AGREEMENT ON STATUS OF ORGANIZATION, NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AND INTERNATIONAL STAFF-SUGGESTION TO REFER TO COMMITTEE
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LIB

Jean Lesage (Parliamentary Assistant to the Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. Jean Lesage (Parliamentary Assistant to the Secretary of State for External Affairs):

am not a member of the government, and would not be in a position to answer that question. That would have to be answered by a member of the government.

Topic:   NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO APPROVE AGREEMENT ON STATUS OF ORGANIZATION, NATIONAL REPRESENTATIVES AND INTERNATIONAL STAFF-SUGGESTION TO REFER TO COMMITTEE
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CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS

QUESTION AS TO RETENTION OF PENSION RIGHTS BY RETIRED EMPLOYEES APPLYING FOR OLD AGE SECURITY


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

May I ask the Minister of Transport if he is now in a position to answer my question of last Thursday, as to whether or not rule 9 of the Canadian National Railways pension fund will result in Canadian National pensioners who are 70 years of age or over losing any of their pension rights or benefits when they begin drawing the new universal old age pension.

Topic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Subtopic:   QUESTION AS TO RETENTION OF PENSION RIGHTS BY RETIRED EMPLOYEES APPLYING FOR OLD AGE SECURITY
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Hon. Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport):

Mr. Speaker, I inquired from officers of the Canadian National Railways as to the position in relation to rule No. 9, and I find that no pension granted under the pension

Old Age Security

fund rules of the Canadian National Railways will be affected in any way by the position placed upon Hansard on Thursday of last week by my hon. friend. In other words, no pension will be reduced or withdrawn or withheld because of the receipt by the pensioner of the old age security benefit of $40 or more.

I am further informed by the officers of the Canadian National Railways that rule No. 9 has never been invoked in that sense, neither is it the intention to place that interpretation upon it.

Topic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Subtopic:   QUESTION AS TO RETENTION OF PENSION RIGHTS BY RETIRED EMPLOYEES APPLYING FOR OLD AGE SECURITY
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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Coldwell:

These gratuities granted for retirement on account of ill health, but not under the superannuation fund, will be continued also?

Topic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Subtopic:   QUESTION AS TO RETENTION OF PENSION RIGHTS BY RETIRED EMPLOYEES APPLYING FOR OLD AGE SECURITY
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. Chevrier:

I expected that question would be asked by my hon. friend. While it is true the gratuity is in a somewhat different position than the matter covered by the question by the member for Winnipeg North Centre (Mr. Knowles), I asked the officers of the Canadian National Railways to give attention to that point. I have not had a reply from them as yet, but when I do I shall bring it to the attention of the house.

Topic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS
Subtopic:   QUESTION AS TO RETENTION OF PENSION RIGHTS BY RETIRED EMPLOYEES APPLYING FOR OLD AGE SECURITY
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November 1, 1951