June 21, 1951

PC

Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

I am going to repeat what I said a while ago, that this return is completely evasive. I cannot say anything more about it. There was no answer anyway to the question, and an effort was made to conceal the answer.

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Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

I would ask the hon. gentleman to withdraw the word "conceal". It would not apply to me because I am over and above that; but I have gentlemen here who have a reputation and I must ask the hon. gentleman to withdraw that remark.

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PC

Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

Mr. Chairman, I cannot

withdraw it. The return is here for anybody to see; and I will submit it and the rest of these questions.

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?

Some hon. Members:

Withdraw.

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

Before this discussion is over, I will submit all the rest of these questions, and I will leave it for you, Mr. Chairman, or anyone else to say whether the return bears out the statement I have just made.

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LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

Mr. Chairman, I insist that the hon. gentleman who is insulting the officials of my department withdraw that remark.

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Louis-René Beaudoin (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

I think that the hon. member for Calgary East certainly had no intention of insulting the deputy minister, the officials of the Department of Public Works or the minister himself. He, of course, knows about the citation in Beauchesne at page 105 which refers to high officials. They are covered by standing order 41 which forbids offensive language. I would think that the hon. member would himself realize that it might be advisable for him to modify his remarks or withdraw the words that he has used.

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Harkness:

The minister and I get on very well indeed, Mr. Chairman, and I am quite sure that he knows that I had no intention of insulting him and that I had no intention of insulting his officials.

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Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

Thank you.

Item stands.

Progress reported.

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VETERANS AFFAIRS


Sixth report of special committee on veterans affairs.-Mr. Mutch.


BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

Mr. Speaker, tomorrow we will take up the estimates of the Department of Veterans Affairs and the bills concerning veterans affairs. If we get through with those late in the evening, we will take up the estimates of the Department of Agriculture afterwards.

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Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Will the Minister of Public Works (Mr. Fournier) make it clear which come first, the estimates or the bills?

Supply-Health and Welfare Mr. Fournier (Hull): The estimates. We will start with the estimates.

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At eleven o'clock the house adjourned, without question put, pursuant to standing order. [The following items were passed in committee of supply]:


DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND WELFARE


255. Departmental administration, $869,901. National health branch- Health services- 256. National health branch-administration, $115,726. 257. Administration of the quarantine and leprosy acts, $289,391. 258. Immigration medical services, $736,367. 259. Sick mariners medical services, $584,111. 260. Grants to institutions assisting sailors, in the amounts detailed in the estimates, $2,600. Laboratory of hygiene- 261. Operation and maintenance, $368,185. 262. Construction and acquisition of buildings, works, land and new equipment, $75,000. 263. Public health engineering, $147,576. 264. Industrial health, $170,085. 265. Civil service health, $233,247. 266. Epidemiology, $40,832. 267. Administration of the Food and Drugs Act, $815,546. 268. Administration of the Proprietary or Patent Medicines Act, $25,515. 269. Administration of the Opium and Narcotic Drugs Act, $159,914. Indians and Eskimos health services- 270. Operation and maintenance, $9,875,630. 271. Construction or acquisition of buildings, works, land and new equipment, $1,609,000. 272. Grant to Squamish (B.C.) hospital which cares for Indians and Eskimos, $30,000. Special technical services- 273. Nutrition, $144,069. 274. Child and maternal health, $87,308. 275. Venereal disease control, $32,218. 276. Dental health, $43,414. 277. Hospital design and consulting service, $24,286. 278. Mental health, $50,610. 279. Blindness control, $32,328. 280. Civil aviation medicine, $29,087. 281. Health insurance studies and administration of general health grants, $72,409. General health grants- 282. To authorize and provide for general health grants to the provinces upon the terms and in the amounts detailed in the estimates and in accordance with regulations prescribed by the governor in council including authority, notwithstanding section 29 of the Consolidated Revenue and Audit Act, to make commitments for the current year not to exceed a total amount of $35,302,238, $25,000,000.



Supply Special health grants- Grants to health organizations- 283. Canadian Mental Health Association, $10,000. 284. Health League of Canada, $10,000. 285. Canadian Public Health Association, $5,000. 286. Canadian National Institute for the Blind, $45,000. 287. L'Association Canadienne Frangaise des Aveugles, $6,000. 288. L'Institut Nazareth de Montreal, $4,050. 289. Montreal Association for the Blind, $4,050. 290. Canadian Tuberculosis Association, $20,250. 291. Victorian Order of Nurses, $13,100. 292. St. John Ambulance Association, $10,000. 293. Canadian Red Cross, $10,000. 294. Canadian Paraplegic Association, $15,000. Welfare branch- 295. Welfare branch administration, $30,696. Family allowances - 296. Administration, $2,004,289. Old age pensions and pensions to the blind1- 297. Administration, $83,859. National physical fitness- 298. Administration, $68,240. 299. Assistance to provinces, $82,214. 300. Assistance to schools of social work, $100,000. 301. Grant to Canadian welfare council $16,000.


DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS


335. Departmental administration, $475,765. Architectural branch- 336. Branch administration, $471,308. 337. Ottawa-maintenance and operation of public buildings and grounds, including repairs and upkeep, rents, furnishings, heating, etc., and to authorize commitments against future years in the amount of $500,000, $9,282,534. 338. Maintenance and operation of public buildings and grounds, other than at Ottawa, including repairs and upkeep, rents, furnishings, heating, etc., and to authorize commitments against future years in the amount of $800,000, $15,661,008. Acquisition, construction and improvements of public buildings


June 21, 1951