September 11, 1950

PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

Mr. Speaker, the interjections at this point merely indicate the necessity for correcting the inaccurate impression contained in the report.

Topic:   ESSENTIAL MATERIALS
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO PRESS REPORT OF DEBATE ON SEPTEMBER 9
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Some hon. Members:

Oh, oh.

Topic:   ESSENTIAL MATERIALS
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO PRESS REPORT OF DEBATE ON SEPTEMBER 9
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

Order.

Topic:   ESSENTIAL MATERIALS
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO PRESS REPORT OF DEBATE ON SEPTEMBER 9
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PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

With the customary reliability of the Canadian Press, the report went on to interpret accurately the effect of the motion, and to quote certain statements that were made. There is no occasion to be critical of an interpretation which seeks to explain a motion of this kind. Hon. members of the house know, however, that a motion of this kind seeks to impress the government with the necessity for holding the bill back, revising it and presenting it in a form that is consistent with the recommendations that are made.

In view of what was said in the opening paragraph of this report, I should like to quote briefly what I said on Saturday, September 9, as reported at page 519 of Hansard:

Mr. Speaker, I propose to deal with two points that have been raised in the amendment that is before you. First, however, I wish to refer to the general purposes of the bill. On second reading we

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Inquiries of the Ministry are considering the principle of the bill; and basically the principle is to give to the government certain extremely broad powers for the purpose of meeting any situation which may affect our economy as the result of our defence preparations.

From the day that this house began to discuss the international situation and the steps that were being taken or not being taken to deal with it. we have sought to emphasize the fact that there is an emergency on a scale which has not been accepted or recognized by the government in any statement that has been made in this house.

Then I referred to certain details, and following reference to those details I said:

As I said yesterday, when the resolution was before us, the desire of every hon. member should be to ensure in every way he can that while we give such clearly-stated powers as can be shown to be necessary to the government, we do not abdicate our functions as members of the supreme authority of the people of Canada, and as a parliament we do not give a blank cheque to this or to any other government.

I would simply point out, Mr. Speaker, that this is a form of motion which has been accepted on a number of occasions by this government and many other governments under a similar constitution; and following that acceptance they have decided that the bill would not be read at that particular point but could be revised and brought forward in a form which would be in keeping with the recommendations which had been made. We have put forward recommendations as to the way in which this bill would carry out the intention and the purpose in a manner consistent with our constitution; and that was the purpose of the motion.

Topic:   ESSENTIAL MATERIALS
Subtopic:   REFERENCE TO PRESS REPORT OF DEBATE ON SEPTEMBER 9
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FLOOD CONDITIONS

MANITOBA


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Finance. Has there yet been reached an understanding between the federal government and the government of the province of Manitoba with respect to the final amount to be paid on account of assistance in fighting the flood of last spring, the undertaking of remedial measures, and so on?

Topic:   FLOOD CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   MANITOBA
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FINAL PAYMENT ON ACCOUNT OF ASSISTANCE
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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. Douglas Abbott (Minister of Finance):

There has been nothing further in that connection. A payment has been made to the province of Manitoba on account of the $12,500,000 which was voted at the last session of parliament, but there has been no further discussion as to the final amount which may be paid.

Topic:   FLOOD CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   MANITOBA
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FINAL PAYMENT ON ACCOUNT OF ASSISTANCE
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Not even any further discussion?

Topic:   FLOOD CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   MANITOBA
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FINAL PAYMENT ON ACCOUNT OF ASSISTANCE
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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

We made a generous vote. ESSENTIAL MATERIALS (DEFENCE) ACT

Topic:   FLOOD CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   MANITOBA
Sub-subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO FINAL PAYMENT ON ACCOUNT OF ASSISTANCE
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PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES


The house resumed, from Saturday, September 9, consideration of the motion of Mr. Howe for the second reading of Bill No. 5, respecting materials and services essential for the purposes of defence and national security.


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Some hon. Members:

Question.

Topic:   PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES
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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

Mr. Speaker-

Topic:   PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Right Hon. C. D. Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, I believe I adjourned the debate, if I am not mistaken.

Topic:   PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES
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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

I thought the minister was not rising.

Topic:   PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

I am not as fast on my feet as my hon. friend. Mr. Speaker, I wish to say just a few words about the amendment offered by the Conservative opposition to the bill now being considered by the house. I was interested in the statement of the leader of the opposition (Mr. Drew) that the Canadian Press are quite mistaken in saying that the opposition amendment would kill the bill. Should this amendment be adopted, it would not only kill the bill but would kill the government.

Topic:   PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES
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An hon. Member:

What a blessing that would be!

Topic:   PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES
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PC

George Alexander Drew (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Drew:

That is a blessing to Canada that we cannot quite hope for yet.

Topic:   PROVISION FOR CONTROL AND REGULATION OF PRODUCTION, DISTRIBUTION AND USE OF ESSENTIAL MATERIALS AND SERVICES
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September 11, 1950