June 26, 1950

LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

Yes.

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John Alpheus Charlton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Charlton:

Who paid for the films?

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

They have been paid for. Some of those produced in the past may have been paid for by the Department of Trade and Commerce. Others have been paid for by the national film board. They are out of the library of government films, chosen because they, have some significance in the country to which we send them.

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Graydon:

An item slipped by while I was out, and I wanted to ask the minister just one question without enlarging upon it. I am told by a prominent agriculturist in this country that there is a large market awaiting Canadian butter in Venezuela. I wonder if

the minister has any information on that, or whether his department has made any recent investigation into the possibilities. If that were so it would be a great, boon to butter producers here, who are faced with pretty heavy competition and the prospect of rather low prices in some instances.

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

Mr. Chairman, we have moved butter to Venezuela, and we hope to move more. Our prices are somewhat out of line with those competing in the market, but I assure my hon. friend we shall lose no opportunity to sell butter in Venezuela.

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Item agreed to. General administration- 427. Economic research and development branch, including the conducting of investigations and reporting upon commercial relations and foreign tariffs, and the development of Canadian industry, and a contribution of $6,300 to the International Customs Tariffs Bureau, $442,480.


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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

Will the

minister add a word to what he said this afternoon on the question of the relationship between the tariff board and the Department of Trade and Commerce in connection with the whole question of commercial relations and foreign tariffs. The minister did mention it this afternoon, but I was not too clear on the division. On the face of it, it looks as if there might be a duplication. I should like to have it explained to me.

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Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

Mr. Chairman, the tariff board acts as adviser to the Minister of Finance regarding domestic tariffs, that is tariffs placed on goods entering Canada. The branch we are discussing, the economic research branch, commercial relations division, deals with tariffs applied by foreign countries against Canadian goods. I think that is the distinction. There is no overlapping.

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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

It is two

sides of the same coin, so to speak. The minister did say this afternoon that the very able head of the tariff board does take full part in trade discussions. Perhaps there is nothing more that need be said about it, but surely the subject does not divide itself sharply into two unrelated parts, foreign tariffs and domestic tariffs. They seem to be part of one problem.

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

We endeavour to make it one problem. The officers of the Department of Trade and Commerce interpret foreign tariffs to Canadian business, and obtain the views of Canadian business on foreign tariffs. This department takes a leading part in any discussion of foreign tariffs, such as have been current in recent years at Geneva and Annecy.

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Heber Harold Hatfield

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Halfield:

Mr. Chairman, I understand the United States tariff commission is now taking evidence about the importation of Canadian potatoes into the United States, which evidence is to be presented at Torquay this autumn. Will the minister state whether we shall have a representative at Torquay who will be posted concerning the importation of fruits and vegetables from the United States, so that he can present an argument against shutting out potatoes going to the United States?

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

Mr. Chairman, the tariff commission of the United States is taking evidence in the United States, and our trade officials are taking evidence in Canada. The hon. member will appreciate that a meeting such as Torquay is a meeting for trading. We expect that our delegation will be able to hold their own against the American delegation in discussing the tariff on potatoes entering the United States. In any case, we are endeavouring to see that they are as well prepared as possible.

While I am on my feet permit me to present my hon. friend with an up-to-date list of articles that can and cannot be imported into Canada. This is not a list prepared by the government, but a list prepared by the Cahadian Manufacturers Association. I will send it across to my hon. friend.

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Heber Harold Hatfield

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hatfield:

I shall be glad to have that list, and at the same time I should like to draw to the minister's attention a case concerning a manufacturer in the United States who built a plant at Montreal. He arranged to bring supplies from his plant in the United States to Montreal, thinking he could bring them in without any restriction. He found he was unable to do so, so last Wednesday he called me to see if I could help him. He is a competitor of mine, but I told him I would give him what help I could. We went to see the officials, and the first man we approached told us he would give this man a permit for enough supplies to last him two months, after which time he could get supplies in Canada. That was on Wednesday, June 21. On June 22, this official wrote a letter to the manufacturer at Lachine informing him that he could not bring in the supplies. The plant was ready to commence operations, and there were about fifty employees hired. This official, after telling his stenographer to send the permit to Rock Island so that it would be there in time for the goods to leave, wrote a letter stating that the chief officials of the board had turned down his 'application.

Supply-Trade and Commerce

This morning I took up the question again, and the official told me he was still ready to allow the goods to enter. I cannot understand why he wrote the letter of June 22.

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

May I ask the hon. member if the man to whom he refers is an officer of the Department of Trade and Commerce?

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Heber Harold Hatfield

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hatfield:

The matter has to do with trade and commerce, but the official is the assistant to the deputy minister of finance.

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

The hon. member is asking me a question about matters of which I have no knowledge.

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Heber Harold Hatfield

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hatfield:

It concerns import control.

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George Harris Hees

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Hees:

Could the minister tell us something of the results obtained so far by the committee under the chairmanship of Mr. James Duncan, of the Massey-Harris Company, Toronto, which was set up some time ago to promote better trade relations between Great Britain and this country?

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Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Howe:

I would point out that the committee of which Mr. Duncan is chairman is a businessmen's committee set up by private enterprise. From my knowledge of its work, I can say it is obtaining excellent results. I believe the comparative trade figures for 1950 and 1949 would indicate that. Someone at least has brought about a great improvement, and I give full credit to the Duncan committee.

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Winfield Chester Scott McLure

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McLure:

While we are discussing this matter of tariffs, I should like to mention again a matter I mentioned earlier. I see by the press that we are about to negotiate with the United States concerning tariffs. There is one industry that has been nearly ruined by taxation and tariffs, and that is the fur industry. I might say that the United States is the only country that puts up an excessive barrier against silver fox furs. Today the tariff is 37J per cent ad valorem. If the minister is to negotiate for lower tariffs or new concessions, I believe this is one matter that should be brought to his attention. While we allow furs from the United States to enter Canada duty free, the United States imposes a 37 J per cent ad valorem duty. At one time it was up to 50 per cent, but it was reduced a little. I should like the minister to make a note of that, and have his officials discuss it with the United States customs officers.

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June 26, 1950