June 13, 1950


The house in committee of supply, Mr. Dion in the chair. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE Marketing service



26. Subsidies for cold storage warehouses under the Cold Storage Act, and grants, in the amounts detailed in the estimates, $644,159.


PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

There has been a recent development in the northwestern states described as gas refrigeration for the preservation of fruits. This has nothing at all to do with the Alberta pipe lines, but it is a process by which gases are thrown off from the fruit, causing it to go dormant and thereby enabling apples and other fruits to be kept in a better state of preservation than in ordinary cold storage. Could the minister state whether experiments in this connection are being carried on at any of the stations, and if plants are being established for the co-operative use of farmers so that they could have the same benefits as those derived from other forms of cold storage?

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LIB

Robert McCubbin (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. McCubbin:

Before the minister answers the hon. member for Nanaimo, I should like to reply to a question asked by the hon. member for Lake Centre when the cold storage bill was under discussion; I was unable to answer it at the time. I told the hon. member I

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would give him the information when the in Saskatchewan, Alberta and Manitoba under estimates were under consideration. The the act. I now have this information, which is hon. member asked what grants were made as follows:

Name

Manitoba

Brandon Creamery and Supply Company

Winkler Co-operative Creamery

Crescent Cold Storage Limited

North Star Cold Storage Company Limited No. 1 .. North Star Cold Storage Company Limited No. 2 ..

Winnipeg Cold Storage Company Ltd

Manitoba Cold Storage Company Ltd

Saskatchewan

Moose Jaw Cold Storage Co

Central Cold Storage Ltd

Saskatchewan Co-operative Creamery

Saskatchewan Co-operative Creamery

Saskatchewan Co-operative Creamery

Alberta

Merchants Cold Storage

O'Riorden, R. D

Alberta Poultry Producers Ltd

Edmonton Cold Storage Co. No. 1

Edmonton Cold Storage Co. No. 2

Central Alberta Dairy Pool

Approved Subsidy Year Built Location$ 9,600.00 1912 Brandon5,931.00 1949 Winkler87,567.93 1947 Winnipeg23,743.20 1943 Winnipeg23,835.60 1946 Winnipeg104,950.26 1949 Winnipeg181,000.00 1939 Winnipeg27,000.00 1913 Moose Jaw48,403.72 1947 Prince Albert14,477.00 1912 Regina32,400.00 1918 Saskatoon6,735.00 1914 Vonda27,000.00 1911 Calgary6,231.26 1946 Camrose31,515.87 1945 Edmonton45,600.00 1913 Edmonton22,500.00 1944 Edmonton10,380.90 1945 Red Deer

The Central Cold Storage Limited at Prince Albert was the particular plant in which the hon. member was interested. The following warehouses are under construction throughout western Canada:

Name

Manitoba Dairy and Poultry Co-operative Ltd.

Winnipeg Cold Storage Co. Ltd

Davidson Co-operative Association Ltd....

Limerick Co-operative Association Ltd....

Edmonton Cold Storage Co. Ltd

1 hope that this is the information asked for by the hon. member.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

In connection with the question raised by the hon. member for Nanaimo, may I say that there is an organization, I believe with headquarters at Vancouver, which has been promoting a plan along the lines suggested. I believe they already have a cold storage plant in Vancouver, but they are hoping to have cold storage plants also at Edmonton, Calgary, Regina and Saskatoon. They will promote the marketing of products in farming communities as well as urban centres.

The proposal was brought to our attention by the promoter, and we think it is good. The only reason it was brought to our attention was to inquire whether they could get the thirty per cent grant. I do not think there is any question about the idea being good; I believe it has been tried out and found to be successful in the United States, and I am sure it would give good service in

[Mr. McCubbin.l

Estimated subsidy Location

Brandon, Manitoba Winnipeg, Manitoba Davidson, Saskatchewan Limerick, Saskatchewan Edmonton, Alberta

this country. When an application is made for the thirty per cent grant we check to see whether there are sufficient cold storage plants in the vicinity. If it is determined that there are sufficient cold storage facilities, then we do not make the thirty per cent grant. But that does not mean that the company cannot go ahead and put up a cold storage plant if they desire to do so.

So far as I can recall at the moment, a check was made in Calgary and it was reported from all sources, including provincial government sources, that there is sufficient cold storage in Calgary, and that it would be detrimental to the cold storage that has been subsidized to have more cold storage at that point. There has been some inquiry made at Edmonton, but I do not think a final report has been obtained. My impression is that any reports or investigations that have been made at Regina and Saskatoon would tend to indicate that there could be more cold storage at those points. To my knowledge

that is as far as the discussions have gone. I do not know to what extent the company has been proceeding without giving consideration to possible grants from Ottawa, but the grants are available on the same basis as they are available to cold storage generally- that is, if conditions are such as to warrant it.

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CCF

William Scottie Bryce

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Bryce:

I have had some difficulty in hearing what the minister said. I do not think he is properly warmed up yet. When you advance money to cold storage companies to erect and operate cold storage plants, is there a clause in the agreement allotting a certain amount of space to patrons of the district?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

I am having as much

difficulty in hearing my hon. friend.

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William Scottie Bryce

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Bryce:

I would suggest that the minister sit nearer the centre of the chamber; then he will hear me and I will hear him.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

You will have to suggest that people stop buzzing around us. There is too much murmuring going on. Otherwise I think we could hear all right.

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CCF

William Scottie Bryce

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Bryce:

What I am asking the minister is whether there is a clause in the agreement with the cold storage company providing a certain amount of space for patrons of the district.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

The old regulation in the provision for securing grants provided that there could not be more than fifteen per cent, but there is a provision in the act now, which was introduced in 1947, that where a strictly co-operative organization organizes locker space for the benefit of the people of the community they can have one hundred per cent if they so desire.

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Item agreed to. Marketing service- 27. Fruit, vegetables and maple products, and honey, including grant of $5,000 to Canadian Horticultural Council, $989,000.


PC

Lewis Elston Cardiff

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Cardiff:

Are we going to take a little time to ask a few questions, or are you going to railroad these items through without giving us a chance? If you are, we might as well let them all go through and allow things to remain as they are. I see that this item is down somewhat. Are we not getting the service we were getting before?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

Service on what?

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PC

Lewis Elston Cardiff

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Cardiff:

Under item 27. Nearly every item is down. Are we not getting the service?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

It is an increase of $60,340. I do not think that is down.

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PC

Lewis Elston Cardiff

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Cardiff:

I thought it was down. I beg your pardon.

Supp ly-A griculture

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CCF

William Scottie Bryce

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Bryce:

Is the government still carrying any honey?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

Yes, the government is carrying about 2,800,000 pounds.

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John Alpheus Charlton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Charlton:

Has the minister any idea as to the honey surplus that is being carried in the country at this time?

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June 13, 1950