June 12, 1950

PC

John Alpheus Charlton

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Charlton:

If the minister would permit me to go back to item No. 17 for just a moment, I see that the number of veterinarians is somewhere near what it was before the war. I wonder if the minister knows how many graduates will be coming into the permanent service from the Ontario and Quebec veterinary colleges this year.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

We expect about thirty new appointments this year.

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LIB
PC

A. Earl Catherwood

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Calherwood:

Could the minister tell

us when we may expect the time to be shortened between the application and the actual testing? At present it takes almost a year from the time the application is made until the herd is tested, and many of our farmers who have made application to have their herd accredited would like to have it done much sooner. Can the minister say when that position might be cleared up?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

Well, a year seems quite a long time, but if it is that long it is because of what I just stated. We have difficulty in getting enough veterinarians to do all the work that has to be done, not only in districts but in the testing of accredited herds.

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Item agreed to. 19. Livestock and poultry, $1,342,738.


PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

This is the item under which the minister said he would explain the steps that have been taken to control Newcastle disease on Vancouver island. I have had reports of new cases discovered as recently as June 6. I am particularly anxious to know not only what is being done, but whether the department has enough veterinarians in that district to control the disease, and also

whether tests have been made with the vaccines used in the United States, I believe with a considerable degree of success.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

Perhaps the best answer I can give with regard to Newcastle disease on the coast is to merely recite the figures. The flocks under slaughter order numbered 201 as of June 10. Up to that date the destroyed flocks numbered 194 and the birds destroyed totalled 307,217. The eggs destroyed in fully reported destroyed flocks numbered 202,140. The compensation awarded in fully reported destroyed flocks was $421,357.83; and the officials in charge think they have it under control. I believe that is the most complete answer I can give my hon. friend.

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George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

Is it possible to import, into British Columbia and use on the flocks there the vaccine which has been tried in Washington with success, as I am informed?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

The department is satisfied that the vaccination which has been found successful in some areas south of the line no doubt will be utilized in this country at a later stage in fighting the disease, but it is felt that at present the most important thing is to slaughter the herds and get rid of them entirely, and also get rid of the eggs produced by the flocks. When the matter is fully under control the question of vaccination in order to prevent the disease from infecting flocks elsewhere may be considered, but at the present time it is felt advisable to go on with the slaughter of flocks, paying for those destroyed.

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PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Pearkes:

The vaccine cannot be imported now, I believe; is that right?

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

There are two vaccines, one known as dead vaccine and the other as live vaccine. It is not permitted to import the live vaccine from the United States, but the dead vaccine is produced here in our own laboratories. Up to the present time the importation of live vaccine has been prohibited because under those circumstances it does spread the disease.

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John James Smith

Liberal

Mr. Smith (Moose Mountain):

Out in our

part of the country the provincial governments are attempting to control Bang's disease. Is the federal government giving any assistance, or is there any federal program to eliminate this disease or prevent it from spreading?

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

The federal government cooperates with the provinces. We provide the vaccine and the province applies it.

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James Lester Douglas

Liberal

Mr. Douglas:

I wonder if the minister can tell us how many reactors there were among the cattle tested in Prince Edward Island?

Supply-Agriculture

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. Gardiner:

About 90,000 have been tested and there have been about eleven reactors. And the last test, about eleven: one in one county, one in another county and nine in another.

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Item agreed to.


PC

A. Earl Catherwood

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Catherwood:

I should like to refer back to item No. 17, and ask the minister if he would just answer one question with regard to efforts being made to combat shipping fever. This is a serious matter among farmers and many farmers hesitate to purchase cattle particularly from the west. I wonder if the minister would make a statement as to what is being done.

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Robert McCubbin (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. McCubbin:

We supply the vaccine in Toronto and Winnipeg and the stockyards and the provincial governments supply the veterinaries to inoculate.

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June 12, 1950