May 10, 1950

LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

I shall be very glad to see that that point is taken up with the trade.

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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

I have a point. I introduce it by reading just a sentence or two from section 13 of the original act, subsection (d):

Every dealer is guilty of an offence who

(d) makes, sells, or imports or otherwise brings into Canada, an article to which any mark not authorized by this act or by regulation is applied...

My question is this: Are there any standards of any kind anywhere else which are as well recognized as, and bear a reputation equal to that of, the English hall-marks? Are there any standards of any kind that we will accept as equivalent to our own, or must everything have our own markings?

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

Yes, Mr. Chairman, there are certain marks that we very definitely accept.

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

How does the subsection I have just read apply to them? Does not everyone who uses them and does not use our own marks come within the terms of the section?

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

Will the hon. member look at section 6, subsection 4, paragraphs (a) and (b), of the 1946 act?

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

I have not got it now.

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

The hon. member will find it squarely covers the point raised.

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

What is the section?

Research Council Act

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

Section 6 (4) (a) and (b). Paragraph (a) covers the point particularly.

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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

The subsection says:

Subsections two and three of this section shall not apply to any article

(a) that is hall-marked in accordance with the laws of the United Kingdom; or- *

And so on. In other words the parliamentary assistant is confirming what he said a moment ago to the effect that other standards are accepted. What is the test? How does he determine which one we accept? Do we test them in terms of our own requirements, or do we follow their general reputation? How many tests are there?

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

The practice in the United Kingdom is to have these articles assayed before the hall-mark may be applied. We in fact take the hall-mark without further assay.

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

What other tests are there?

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. Mcllrailh:

That same procedure would apply to certain articles from Holland, Switzerland and France-other than the United Kingdom.

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Section agreed to. Sections 2 to 7 inclusive agreed to. Bill reported, read the third time and passed.


RESEARCH COUNCIL ACT

PROVISION FOR ADDITIONAL VICE-PRESIDENT DEFINITION OF "INVENTION"

LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Hon. Alphonse Fournier (for the Minister of Trade and Commerce) moved

the second reading of Bill No. 179, to amend the Research Council Act.

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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

Would the parliamentary assistant, in his speech, give us the general background of the research council?

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. G. J. Mcllrailh (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minisler of Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, I did that rather fully at the resolution stage. After doing it I came to the conclusion that I had gone into a great deal more detail in respect of the bill than probably I should have at that stage.

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PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Macdonnell (Greenwood):

I was not

here.

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May 10, 1950