April 20, 1950

INCOME TAX

APPEAL BOARD

LIB

William F. Carroll

Liberal

Mr. W. F. Carroll (Inverness-Richmond):

On a question of privilege, Mr. Speaker, I would ask the Minister of National Revenue whether W. F. Carroll, member for the constituency of Inverness-Richmond, and "Mr. C.", who is or was a judge of one of our Canadian courts and who as commissioner received some $15,000 on which he objected to paying income tax, are the same person.

Hon. J. J. McCann (Minister of National Revenue: The hon. member for Inverness-Richmond and "Mr. C." are not the same person, Mr. Speaker, and I am very sorry if the person who has been referred to as "Mr. C." has caused the hon. member any inconvenience or embarrassment.

[Later: ]

On the orders of the day:

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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PC

Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Gordon Graydon (Peel):

Mr. Speaker, in view of the fact that the hon. member for Inverness-Richmond (Mr. Carroll) at the opening of today's sitting raised the question of who "Mr. C." was, and, in effect, asked that any cloud be dispelled that might be over his name in that connection, may I ask the Minister of National Revenue to remove the cloud-from all of our judges' good names, and tell the House of Commons who "Mr. C." really is?

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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LIB

James Joseph McCann (Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys; Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Hon. J. J. McCann (Minister of National Revenue):

Under the terms of secrecy with reference to income tax returns I have not the right to divulge who "Mr. C." was, particularly on account of the fact that the appellant in the case asked that it be heard in camera.

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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PC

Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Graydon:

May I ask one further question? The minister has already given an answer which exonerated one judge. Does he mean that we have to put a question as to every judge in Canada before we can come to the man who is "Mr. C."?

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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LIB

James Joseph McCann (Minister of Mines and Technical Surveys; Minister of National Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. McCann:

Mr. Speaker, if the hon. member for Peel wishes to adopt those tactics and that mode of procedure, I will answer the questions one by one.

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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PC

Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Graydon:

Thank you.

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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LIB

Elie Beauregard (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. Speaker:

I shall have to take into consideration whether or not such procedure would be allowed. At the moment I am not ruling that I will allow the questions to be put in that way.

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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PC

Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Graydon:

May I ask a question of the Minister of Justice? Until His Honour makes a ruling with respect to that matter, will the Minister of Justice table the names of all of the judges in Canada so that we may have them for the purpose of asking the questions?

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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PC

Gordon Knapman Fraser

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fraser:

They are all under a cloud.

Topic:   INCOME TAX
Subtopic:   APPEAL BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   "MR. C." AND MEMBER FOR INVERNESS-RICHMOND NOT THE SAME PERSON
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FOREIGN EXCHANGE CONTROL

FINE IMPOSED ON HOTEL OWNER


On the order for motions:


LIB

Stuart Sinclair Garson (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. Stuart S. Garson (Minister of Justice):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to announce that the government has instructed counsel to appeal against the sentences imposed in the case of Rex v. Vernon G. Cardy.

Topic:   FOREIGN EXCHANGE CONTROL
Subtopic:   FINE IMPOSED ON HOTEL OWNER
Sub-subtopic:   STATEMENT AS TO APPEAL
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QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


HAND GRENADES

PC

Mr. Fraser:

Progressive Conservative

1. Do any organizations, police departments, individuals or group of individuals in Canada have permission to possess and use hand grenades of any kind?

2. If so, what are the names of these people or organizations?

3. What kind of hand grenades do they possess and from what source did they receive them?

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   HAND GRENADES
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LIB

Mr. Garson: (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

1. Peace officers, immigration officers and service personnel may possess and use hand grenades under the general authority of section 129 of the Criminal Code; bona fide dealers may also possess hand grenades under the general authority of the same section and without having a specific authority in the form of a permit. Persons other than those already mentioned may also have hand grenades if in possession of a permit in Criminal Code form 76A. Such permits may be issued by the commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police or by any officer duly authorized by him or by any person authorized by

Questions

the attorney general of any province upon sufficient cause being shown and upon being satisfied as to the discretion and good character of the applicant.

Hand grenades come within the definition of "offensive weapon", as defined by section 2(25) of the Criminal Code of Canada.

2. The names of persons or organizations to whom permits have been issued authorizing possession of hand grenades are not available, as there is no central record of such permits. Applications are normally dealt with by officers authorized by the attorney general of the province to deal with these matters under authority of section 120, subsection 2, of the Criminal Code.

3. The information asked for is not available at present for the reason mentioned in the answer to No. 2.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   HAND GRENADES
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April 20, 1950