Mr. Jaenicke:

What are the corresponding figures for the Mail Printing Company?

Mr. Graydon:

The title of the building occupied by the Globe Printing Company is in the name of the Mail Printing Company. That information came out in the committee. I think I can satisfy my hon. friend by saying that the Mail Printing Company operates a small plant under lease in another part of the city where it carries on a job printing business.

Mr. Knight:

I have heard the argument presented tonight by my hon. friend, just as

Globe Printing Company I heard what he had to say in the committee. While I am perfectly convinced of my hon. friend's personal integrity in the matter, nothing that he has said has made me change my mind in connection with the request I make that my amendment be voted on so that we may get the opinion of the members of this committee as to whether it would not be advisable to delay this legislation until we have some further information.

Mr. Ferguson:

What objective can be gained by delaying the bill? This is an old company which was incorporated under letters of patent. A new company incorporated today would not be handicapped with this old shackle. The C.C.F. members are delaying the passage of the bill. Why will they not divulge their motive in asking for a delay? They have listened to this matter being discussed in committee. It has been hashed over time and time again. Yet they still contend that there is something wrong, something that is not quite correct. They are asking questions and they want to delay it. Why do they want to delay it? Why not let us see what they are driving at, or is it the fact that this bill concerns a private enterprise trying to carry on business? The C.C.F. members are spending the public's money at the rate of about $2,000 for every forty minutes. They have listened to this matter being hashed over time and again in committee, and nonsensically they are asking the same things again. It is utter nonsense.

Mr. Stewart (Winnipeg North):

Apparently somebody is not adhering strictly to the truth, because we have been told that we have heard this matter hashed over time and again in committee and yet the member for Saskatoon City has told us that he asked certain questions of counsel when the bill was before a committee of the house, and answers were not given. The member for Peel stated in his remarks that he would not go into the questions raised.

Mr. Graydon:

I did not say that.

Mr. Stewart (Winnipeg North):

You will And it in Hansard. I think it is only right that before we pass this legislation the committee should have some knowledge of what the facts are, and I believe these questions should be answered. That is all we are asking for now. There are no ulterior motives. I have no great regard, and less respect, for the Globe and Mail, but I am prepared to live and let live. As things are now, I do think that the committee is entitled to answers to the questions asked.

Mr. Graydon:

May I ask the hon. member if there are any questions that still remain unanswered? We have attempted to answer every single question that has been raised.

[Mr. Knight.l

Amendment (Mr. Knight) negatived: yeas, 27; nays, 34.

Section 1 agreed to.

The Deputy Chairman:

Shall I report the bill?

Mr. Cruickshanlc:

May I ask my question now? Has this bill any connection with a bill to prohibit the publishing of the Toronto Star?

Read it.

Mr. Cruickshank:

Just a minute; the Tories

have had their day. Their leader took a day off and got lost, and the member for Vancouver North stole the show yesterday. Has this bill any connection with the other measure to which I have referred?

Mr. Sinclair:

I would not want to steal any show that the leader of the opposition has.

Mr. Graydon:

May I answer my hon. friend by saying that the answer to his question is no.

Mr. Cruickshank:

Do I understand then that George McCullagh has no connection with it?

Mr. Graydon:

I rise on a point of order, Mr. Chairman. The bill has been passed, and we are not going to listen to slander across the floor of the house.

The Depuiy Chairman: Order. The bill has been carried.

Bill reported.

Mr. Speaker:

Mr. Graydon moves that the said bill be now read the third time. Is it the pleasure of the house to adopt the motion?

Mr. Arthur Williams (Ontario):

Mr. Speaker-

Mr. Speaker:

I put the motion.