April 7, 1949

LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

Shall section 3 carry?

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Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. Fleming:

I am going to ask the minister for an undertaking and he might as well make up his mind on that. I am going to ask it on this section and on all other sections. He made a statement to the house, and I now ask if he is prepared to back up that statement with an undertaking or assurance to

Supply-Ways and Means all hon. members of the house. If he does not give that, then his statement was misleading.

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Section agreed to. Section 4 agreed to. Preamble agreed to. On the schedule.


LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

Shall the schedule carry?

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

I want to ask a question on the schedule. The copy which I have, and which was handed to me by the Clerk of the House, has in it item 607:

National health and welfare-welfare branch-old age pensions (including pensions to the blind) -

607. Administration-further amount required, $5,500.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

My copy has that item struck out, Mr. Chairman.

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CCF

Robert Ross (Roy) Knight

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knight:

On a point of order, can we have a copy of this bill or not?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. Abbott:

May I say a word. We all know that in the case of these special bills, the copy which is before the committee is the copy which is printed before first reading. When the house and the committee by unanimous consent, which is the only way in which it can be done, gives first, second and third reading all in one stage, it is not possible to have copies for all hon. members. We all know that. I do not think that much purpose is served by asking, "Can we have copies of the bill?" This bill is in the standard form in which bills of the kind have been passed for eighty years.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. Knowles:

Still speaking to the schedule,

I recognize the validity of what the minister has said. I have seen it done a good many times myself, but that is usually because the schedule that is attached to the bill is the schedule that we passed item by item in committee of supply. This time there has been a change, by the use of a device against which I am registering this protest. Because this schedule that the minister is now asking us to pass contains one item less than the schedule that was presented to us in committee of supply-and an important item, too-I am opposed to it and I ask for a standing vote.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

All those in favour of the schedule please say yea.

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Some hon. Members:

Yea.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

All those opposed please say nay.

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?

Some hon. Members:

Nay.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The Deputy Chairman:

In my opinion the yeas have it.

Schedule agreed to: yeas, 75; nays, 32.

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Preamble agreed to. Bill reported, read the third time and passed.


THE ROYAL ASSENT


A message was delivered by Major C. R. Lamoureux, Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod, as follows: Mr. Speaker, the Right Honourable the Deputy of His Excellency the Governor General desires the immediate attendance of this honourable house in the chamber of the honourable the Senate. Accordingly, the house went up to the Senate. And having returned. Mr. Speaker informed the house that the Right Honourable the Deputy Governor General had been pleased to give, in His Majesty's name, the royal assent to the following bills: An act respecting the Corporation of the City of Ottawa, Ottawa Transportation Commission and the Ottawa Electric Railway Company. An act for the granting to His Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of the financial year ending the 31st March, 1949.


BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. Fournier (Hull):

I move that the house do now adjourn.

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April 7, 1949