June 25, 1948

SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

Mr. Chairman, there is no item in veterans affairs estimates under which it can be discussed, so far as I can see.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

Order. This is no place for such a discussion, because it has nothing whatsoever to do with this item.

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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

If the commission did not cost anything, it must come under administrative expenses, I should think, of national revenue.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

Order. I must again ask the hon. member not to discuss the matter further, because it has nothing to do with this item.

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Item agreed to. Customs and excise divisions- 295. Ports, outports and preventive stations, including pay for overtime of officers notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act, and temporary buildings and rentals, $12,485,392.


PC

James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. MACDONNELL (Muskoka-Ontario):

I wish to move to reduce this item by $14,000. I shall read from Beauchesne, third edition, citation 484:

Amendments moved for the 1'eduction of a grant are proceeded with under the general rules governing amendments. For instance, on a resolution granting $10,000 for a certain purpose, a member may move that the amount be reduced by $2,000. This amendment then takes the form of the original motion offering, in lieu of the sum thereby proposed, a reduced sum for the acceptance of the committee.

It goes on to say that if one amendment is rejected another one may be proposed. Pursuant to that rule, I m'ove that item 295 be reduced from $12,485,392 to $12,471,392, and I submit that I am within the terms of the rule I have quoted.

Supply-Labour

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

The only reason the hon. member was out of order before was that he was trying to move his amendment to item 293,

Amendment negatived: yeas 16; nays 38. Item agreed Ito.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Twelve o'clock.

Mr. MoCANN: There are two items, Mr. Chairman, 799 and 800 under the customs and excise divisions, totalling 826,012 and having t.o do with inspection, overtime pay to officers at ports and so forth which I should like to have called.

Customs and excise divisions-

799. Inspection, investigation and audit services-further amount required, $4,512.

800. Ports, outports and preventive stations, including pay for overtime of officers notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act, and temporary buildings and rentals-further amount required, $21,509.

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Items agreed to. Resolutions reported, read the first and second times and concurred in.


BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. FOURNIER (Hull):

Mr. Speaker, I move that the house do now adjourn. Tomorrow we shall consider the amendments made by the senate to Bill No. 338, respecting income taxes. They are small amendments. Then Bill No. 398 to amend the Manitoba Natural Resources Act. Then we shall take up supply in the remaining departments, the rest of national revenue, public works, legislation, finance, the Prime Minister's office, some supplementary estimates before the house. Then the Minister of National Health and Welfare will move concurrence in the report of the prices committee. There is only one other item that will remain to conclude the business of the session, namely, the resolution in the name of the Prime Minister, and I hope we shall be in a good humour tomorrow to take that on.

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Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNJB:

May I ask the Minister of Public Works at what time of the day the prices report will toe moved?

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LIB

Alphonse Fournier (Minister of Public Works; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. FOURNIER (Hull):

I wanted to suggest to my hon. friends-I have not discussed it-that tomorrow we sit from eleven to one and adjourn to two, then continue with estimates until three o'clock. I believe the Minister of National Health and Welfare announced that he would move concurrence in the report at three o'clock if that is satisfactory. I think

that could easily be followed. I shall see my hon. friends tomorrow morning.

Motion agreed to and the house adjourned at twelve midnight.

[The following items were passed in committee of supply]:

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DEPARTMENT OF LABOUR


142. Bureau of technical personnel and placement of university graduates, $39,569. Vocational training- 143. Vocational training for discharged members of Canada's armed forces; payments to the provinces for capital expenditures for vocational schools, buildings and equipment; and to provide for dominion contributions towards replacement by a province or municipality of machinery used in war emergency training; including undischarged commitments of previous years, $5,790,090. 144. Wartime labour relations board, $17,500. 145. To provide for re-location, maintenance and welfare of persons of the Japanese race in Canada and to provide such financial assistance for repatriation of persons of the Japanese race as may be authorized by the governor in council, $325,000. 146. To provide for the effective organization and use of agricultural manpower, including recruiting, transporting and placing workers on farms and related industries and assistance to the provinces pursuant to agreements that may be entered into by the Minister of Labour with the provinces and approved by the governor in council, $375,00. 147. To provide for payment to the national film board for educational films for exhibition, $24,000. 148. To provide for expenses that may be incurred in the arranging for and the movement of workers from outside Canada to work on farms and other essential industry in Canada when Canadian labour is not available to meet the need; including costs connected with the su-pervision and welfare of persons already immigrated to Canada under former authorized labour movements, and administrative expenses connected therewith, $700,009. Unemployment insurance commission- 149. To provide for transfer of labour to and from places where employment is available in agriculture and industry and expenses incidental thereto, $400,000. 727. Annuities Act-administration-further amount required, $38,000. 728. To provide authority for payment out of the government annuities fund to Charles E. Finlay of the sum of $2,138.67, being a refund of part of the premiums paid in respect of government annuity contract No. 68,181, together with interest on the said sum at the rate of 1J per cent per annum, compounded annually from August 22, 1940, to the date of payment, $1. 729. To provide authority for payment out of the government annuities fund to James W. Morris of the sum of $2,607.24, being a refund of part of the premiums paid in respect of govern- Supply-Fisheries



ment annuity contract No. 88,825, together with interest on the said sum at the rate of 1J per cent per annum, compounded annually from May-14, 1944, to the date of payment, $1. 730. Fair w*ages, conciliation, industrial relations, industrial disputes investigations, including the administration of legislation relating thereto, and for activities re promotion of cooperation in industry, between labour and management-further amount required, $14,000. 731. Labour Gazette and other publications authorized by Labour Department Act-further amount required, $19,000. 732. To provide for expenses that may be incurred in the arranging for and the movement of workers from outside Canada to work on farms and in other essential industry in Canada when Canadian labour is not available to meet the needs, including the duty of obtaining applications from employers and the placement of the workers on arrival in Canada and including costs connected with the supervision and welfare of persons already immigrated to Canada under former authorized labour movements and administration expenses connected therewith-further amount required, $250,000. 733. To authorize and confirm the continuance of regional boards known as "advisory boards, Labour Department", established by P.C. 6387 of August 10, 1943, P.C. 512 of January 12, 1044, and P.C. 5209 of July 24, 1945, to act in an advisory capacity to the Ministry of Labour for the co-ordination of the work of the various divisions of the Department of Labour and the immigration branch of the Department of Mines and Resources, and to provide for payment of per diem allowances to board members and their necessary travelling expenses for attending board meetings; the whole, subject to the conditions and provisions of the aforementioned orders in council which were not continued under the Continuation of Transitional Measures Act, 1947, $1.


DEPARTMENT OF FISHERIES


95. Departmental administration, $277,000. 96. Fisheries inspection, including fishery officers and guardians, fisheries patrol and protection services, $2,438,000. 97. Building fishways and clearing rivers, $50,000. 98. Educational extension service, including grant of $3,000 to Lunenburg Fisheries Exhibition, $200,000. 99. Fish culture, $350,000. 100. Oyster culture, $45,700. Fisheries research board of Canada- 101. Operation and maintenance, $894,690. 102. Construction and improvements, $75,000. 103. To provide for Canadian share of expenses of the international fisheries commission appointed under treaty dated March 2. 1923, between Canada and the United States for the' preservation of the North Pacific halibut fisheries, $31,500. 104. To provide for Canadian share of expenses of the international Pacific salmon fisheries commission under treaty between Canada and the United States for the protection, preservation and extension of the sockeye salmon fisheries of the Fraser river system, $99,500. 105. To provide for Canadian share of expenses of the international Pacific salmon fisheries commission to overcome obstructions to the ascent of sockeye salmon at Hell's Gate canyon and for investigating and overcoming obstructions to such salmon at other points on the Fraser river watershed (revote), $250,090. 106. Grant to the United Maritime Fishermen's Association, $3,000. 107. To provide for transportation, dressing and dyeing and other expenses incidental to receiving and disposing of fur seal skins accruing to Canada pursuant to provisional fur seal agreement between Canada and the United States by exchange of notes dated December 26, 1947, $550,000. 108. To provide for the destruction of harbour seals, $30,099. Special- 109. To provide for the extension of educational work in co-operative producing and selling among fishermen, $80,090. 110. To provide for the administration expenses of the Fisheries Prices Support Act, 1944, $200,000. 111. To provide for assistance in the construction of vessels of the dragger and/or long liner type, subject to such terms and conditions as may be approved by the governor in council, $290,090. 112. To provide for assistance in the construction of bait freezing and storage facilities, subject to the approval of the governor in council, $50,099. 799. Fisheries inspection, including fishery officers and guardians, fisheries patrol and protection services-further amount required, $265,790. 710. Fish culture-further amount required, $10,099. 711. Oyster culture-further amount required, $5,520. 712. Fisheries research board of Canada- operation and maintenance-further amount required, $48,700. Construction and improvements



713. Further amount required, $78,000. 714. To provide for the acquisition of lands required by the international Pacific salmon fisheries commission, as required by article VIII of treaty dated May 26, 1930, between Canada and the United States for the protection, preservation and extension of the sockeye salmon fisheries of the Fraser river system, $2,000. 715. To authorize and to provide for the fisheries prices support board to reimburse the Canadian Commercial Corporation for administrative expenses in connection wtih the purchase of 190,090 eases of east coast canned fish on behalf of fisheries prices support board under chapter 42, statutes of 1944 and order in council P.C. 1229, dated March 25, 1948, $7,500.


DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL DEFENCE

June 25, 1948