March 3, 1948

MR. PROBE-REFERENCE TO REMARKS IN DEBATE ON MARCH 2

CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. J. O. PROBE (Regina City):

I rise to a question of privilege, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday the hon. member for Comox-Alberni (Mr. Gibson), while I was temporarily absent from this chamber, made a charge, as reported at page 1786 of Hansard that I had, in effect, called the management and shareholders of H. R. MacMillan Export Company gangsters. I quote from the relevant portion of the hon. member's speech:

This man MacMillan and his so-called gang paid $7,660,000 in taxes to the federal treasury and yeit the hon. member for Regina Oity calls them a bunch of gangsters.

On the next page the hon. member is quoted as saying:

I think that if anyone is referred to as a member of a gang, he is a gangster.

In my speech on February 5 last, this is what I said, as reported at page 926 of Hansard:

In other words, the profits of the MacMillan gang who clipped the coupons were within fifty cents per share of the men who wenit out bo the fields and the forests and the mills to do the w'ork . . .

And so on. I realize, Mr. Speaker, that there is a natural tendency to give to words a meaning not always necessarily in accord with the intent of the speaker or writer, but rather in accord with the limited education, the type of experience and the nature of the past association of the listener. That is doubtless true of the hon. member for Comox-Alberni.

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. The hon. member has stated his question of privilege, and he should not make any statement.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

I think it is necessary to give a definition of this-

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. The hon. member has stated his question of privilege and should be satisfied.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

My point of privilege has not been stated, Mr. Speaker. It is this. I

did not, according to any standard dictionary which contains the word "gang" or otherwise, use that word in a sense that would give the imputation of gangster referred to by the hon. member for Comox-Alberni, nor had I any such intention. Therefore I ask through you, Mr. Speaker, that the hon. member withdraw the imputation which he made with regard to myself.

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IND

John Lambert Gibson

Independent Liberal

Mr. J. L. GIBSON (Comox-Alberni):

When I went to school, Mr. Speaker, I always understood that the singular of "gang" was "gangster". I am afraid I have not had access to the vast education of my hon. friend.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

That is obvious.

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IND

John Lambert Gibson

Independent Liberal

Mr. GIBSON (Comox-Alberni):

However, if he feels so badly about the matter, I should be glad to withdraw if he will also withdraw the imputation he made that the shareholders of the MacMillan company were members of a gang.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

I made no imputation whatever, Mr. Speaker, that the shareholders of the MacMillan company were members of a gang.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

I am happy that the hon. member has apologized.

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I would call attention of hon. members to a rule which says that when the Speaker rises, the member who has the floor should resume his seat. It is important that this rule should be observed so that we may have order in this house. The hon. member has stated his question of privilege and should be satisfied. Now he is asking that the hon. member for Comox-Alberni withdraw certain remarks. It is not the practice to ask, on the day following, for the withdrawal of what has been said during debate on the day before.

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TOURIST INDUSTRY

REPORTS OF DOMINION-PROVINCIAL CONFERENCES, 1946 AND 1947

LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Trade and Commerce; Minister of Reconstruction and Supply)

Liberal

Right Hon. C. D. HOWE (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker, at the request of the hon. member for Eglinton (Mr. Fleming) that appears at page 1725 of

Czechoslovakia

Hansard, I table two copies of the reports of dominion-provincial tourist conferences held in 1946 and 1947.

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CZECHOSLOVAKIA

COMMUNICATIONS RESPECTING RESIGNATIONS OF MINISTER AND STAFF IN OTTAWA


Right Hon. L. S. ST. LAURENT (Secretary of State for External Affairs): Mr. Speaker, I would like to communicate to the house two letters I received just a short while ago from the former minister of Czechoslovakia, addressed to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. The first, bearing date of March 3, 1948, is as follows: Your Excellency, I have the honour to inform you that I am announcing today to the Czechoslovak government in Prague my resignation, as envoy extraordinary and minister plenipotentiary of Czechoslovakia in Canada. At the same time, Dr. Vladimir Moudry, first secretary, ;andi Dr. Karel Bala, commercial attache, are announcing their resignation to their respective departments of the Czechoslovak government in Prague. The legation will be in charge of Colonel Jiaromir Petzold, MBE, who remains at his post. I would appreciate it very much if you could kindly inform His Excellency the Governor General about my resignation, and convey to him my grateful thanks for all his kindness, which he has extended to me on so many occasions. May I express to Your Excellency my warmest thanks for all your co-operation and assistance in my work in this country. Accept, Excellency, the renewed assurance of my highest consideration. Frantisek Nemee. The second letter bears the same date and is also addressed to the Secretary of State for External Affairs: Your Excellency, Referring to my letter of March 3, I have the honour to announce to you that from the staff of the legation Miss Alzbeta Katzova and Miss Eva Blumenscheinova, both office secretaries at the legation, are sending their resignation today to their respective departments of the Czechoslovak government in Prague. Frantisek Nemec.


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March 3, 1948