February 10, 1948

LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Mr. Speaker, hon. members know very well that I have no intention of casting any reflection on any member of parliament with respect to his honesty, and I have not done so.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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James MacKerras Macdonnell

Progressive Conservative

Mr. MACDONNELL (Muskoka-Ontario):

Why not say so?

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I have not done so, and I have nothing to withdraw.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

I rise to a point of order. I humbly request Your Honour to rule whether the Prime Minister has been in order or out of order in his discussion of your ruling.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I understand, as I said a few minutes ago, that the Prime Minister has not been discussing the ruling which has been given by the Speaker. He is reviewing what happened during the debate. I do not think that the Prime Minister has imputed any motives to hon. members.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh!

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

He gave his opinion of what happened during the debate.

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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

It is no wonder that rulings are appealed.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. CHEVRIER:

He is discussing your conduct, and you do not like it.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

If it is your ruling that the Prime Minister is in order, I respectfully appeal your ruling to the house.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I would ask the hon. member to recall that in discussing a ruling which I gave on an amendment I drew hon. members' attention to the fact that often some hon. members seem to be of the opinion that in ruling an amendment out of order the Speaker rules against its merit. The same thing applies to a motion to adjourn the

Prices Committee

house to discuss an urgent matter of public importance. As I said before, because the Speaker does not accept the motion, some members seem to be under the impression that the Speaker does not believe that the question which the hon. member wishes to discuss is urgent and important. Because of that some hon. members appeal the decision of the Speaker. During the course of the debate two amendments were ruled out of order and they were appealed. In closing the debate the Prime Minister is reviewing what happened during the debate. I do not see any objection to what.he has said up to now.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

Mr. Speaker, I asked you to rule whether or not the Prime Minister was in order. You have indicated that in your opinion-

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Sit down.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

-the Prime Minister is in order. Standing order 12 states that the Speaker decides points of order, subject to an appeal to the house.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Sit down.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
Subtopic:   APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COMMITTEE TO INQUIRE INTO PRICE INCREASES AND MATTERS PERTAINING THERETO
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I did not decide any point of order. I just said I did not think that the Prime Minister had anything to withdraw.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

I raised a point of order. Under standing order 12 Your Honour has the duty of deciding on the matter raised, subject to an appeal to the house.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. member knows very well that if he wishes to appeal, some other hon. members must rise in their places.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

Oh, well, there are plenty of us to do that.

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Those who are in favour of the Speaker's ruling being sustained will please say "yea."

Topic:   FLAXSEED-CATTLE REQUEST FOR ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ASKED ON FEBRUARY 9
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February 10, 1948