February 10, 1948

LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT :

I should like to be able to help the growers. My hon. friend has asked a direct question. I do not know that it is very much better for the people of Canada to have hothouse lettuce grown in Canada than hothouse flowers. It is fifty-fifty. Obviously

there are not enough hothouses in Canada to provide everyone who wants lettuce with that vegetable. Lettuce grown in winter is a straight luxury commodity, and I consider that the people who want to buy hothouse lettuce in winter can pay the price if they have the money. If you were importing lettuce, if you had the United States dollars to import it in volume from the United States or anywhere else at reasonable prices, and if everyone could buy it, well and good. But when you cannot do that, then I say that lettuce grown under glass is a special luxury product which those who can afford it can pay for.

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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GREEN:

On a point of order, Mr. Chairman, before you took the Chair we had a discussion with regard to what would or would not be in order on this section. The Deputy Speaker was then in the Chair, and it was pretty well agreed on all sides of the house-and certainly he did not question us on our submission-that any discussion of general adminstration of the plan would be in order on this first section.

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An hon. MEMBER:

That was not agreed to.

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Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GREEN:

We were not ruled out of

order. The Postmaster General has been sitting here all evening and he did not make one peep about its being out of order.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

The Deputy Speaker was

doing his best.

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PC

Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GREEN:

The questions asked in the

last half hour have been all of a general nature having to do with the general administration of the plan, and I submit to Your Honour that as long as they are of that type they are in order. I agree that if we were dealing with questions which could be brought up under specific sections, the questions w'ould not be in order, but that is not the case.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

In answer

to my hon. friend I would say-and I think he will agree with me-that many of the questions which were raised would be more properly raised when the various clauses are before the committee. I would point out that before six o'clock I made an attempt to get the members of the committee to deal with this bill in an orderly manner; that is, to deal with clause 1, which is only the short title, and then go on with the other clauses and deal with the different matters which have been discussed here. But we have not reached the other clauses at all. Surely my hon. friend does not contend that this is an orderly and proper way in which to deal with

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the bill. On the contrary, it is altogether out of order. There is no rule that permits it. I want to appeal again to hon. members to try to deal with the business in the way in which the rules provide (hat it should be dealt with. It is not a pleasant thing for the Chairman to be obliged continually to call hon. members' attention to the rules. Every hon. member should try to assist the chair in seeing that the rules which are laid down for us are complied with. I think we should abide by them. I appeal again to hon. members to try to get on in an orderly way and deal with clause 1.

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IND

Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

Mr. Chairman-

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Progressive Conservative

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

I should like to

ask the minister a question.

This comes under the general heading. I do not think it will be out of order. This bill deals with the question of saving exchange.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

Order.

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Progressive Conservative

Air. ROSS (St. Paul's):

I do not intend to deal with what is in the bill. I want to ask a question.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

Order. The clause that is before the committee now is the short title; that is all. I think my hon. friend will find other clauses-

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Progressive Conservative

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

Emergency

exchange.

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LIB

William Henry Golding (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

as we go along, under which he can deal with the problem he has in mind.

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Progressive Conservative

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

I have not stated it yet.

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IND

Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

I abide by your ruling. Mr. Chairman.

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Progressive Conservative

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

Mr. Chairman-

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IND

Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

I wfill not discuss your ruling, Mr. Chairman; I abide by it.

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Progressive Conservative

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

-I have the floor.

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LIB

Maurice Hartt

Liberal

Mr. HARTT:

Who said so?

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February 10, 1948