July 9, 1947

CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. ANGUS MacINNIS (Vancouver East):

I wish to ask the Minister of Labour a question. I believe he tabled the unemployment insurance report for the year ended March 31, 1947. Has this report been printed, and will it be available when we deal with the estimates of his department?

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Subtopic:   ANNUAL REPORT FOR YEAR ENDED
Sub-subtopic:   MARCH 31, 1947
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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. HUMPHREY MITCHELL (Minister of Labour):

I do not think so but I will inquire. As soon as it is printed I will see that a copy is forwarded, in English and French, to every member of the house.

Topic:   UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Subtopic:   ANNUAL REPORT FOR YEAR ENDED
Sub-subtopic:   MARCH 31, 1947
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SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS

ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE


Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister) moved that the house go into committee to consider the following resolution: That it is expedient to present a measure to amend the Senate and House of Commons Act to provide an additional annual allowance to the member of the senate occupying the recognized position of leader of the government in the senate and the member occupying the recognized position of leader of the opposition in the senate. Motion agreed to and the house went into committee, Mr. Golding in the chair.


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

We are definitely opposed to this resolution and to the bill which it is proposed to base upon it. As a matter of fact, had I realized that it was this item that was being called a moment ago when the Speaker was in the chair we would have opposed the motion for the Speaker to leave the chair. It so happens that last night the Minister of Veterans Affairs told us that this morning there would be nothing but third readings and supply. We did not expect this until this afternoon.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

My hon. friend will find that I envisioned the possibility of this bill being called any time today.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

The minister envisioned the possibility of its being called this afternoon, but that is neither here nor there, though it is the reason I did not realize that this was the item that was being called. However, now that we are in committee I want to state our definite opposition to this measure and to indicate

to the Prime Minister that if it is the intention of the government to proceed with it and to bring in a bill based upon it, we shall oppose it at all succeeding stages.

To us this seems a strange expression of the promise of the Liberal party down through the years to reform the senate. To us the function played by the senate in our Canadian life is a useless one, and to be strengthening its position in this way just does not come very well from a Liberal government.

I want to make this one point very clear, Mr. Chairman, that in our opposition to this measure we are not expressing any criticism of the two hon. senators immediately affected by the proposal. I personally have a great deal of regard for both these hon. gentlemen. Though I do not know personally the government leader in the other place, I have had occasion a number of times to read speeches he has made and I have been impressed with his attitude towards both domestic and international affairs. I recognize him as a distinguished public servant. I may say also, as regards the opposition leader in the senate, that I have known him personally a good many years and in the province from which we both come, despite any differences of ideas or political opinions that may be held, he is held in high regard in every quarter. I say that in the hope that in this discussion no one will introduce any personalities at all.

To us, however, the principle of strengthening and rendering still more vested the interest in the other place is contrary to the whole principle of representative democracy. It is contrary to the promises of the Liberal party down through the years to reform the senate, and we believe it is contrary to the wishes of the Canadian people.

Further, I might point out that there is a definite incongruity in this session between the kind of measures we seem to find time to pass, such as this one, and the fact that we have not time to pass or to deal with an important measure such as the labour code. Therefore I wish to make it known that we in this group are definitely opposed to this measure.

Resolution reported and read the first time.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

When shall the resolution be read a second time?

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Now.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

On division.

Supply-National Defence

Resolution read the second time on division and concurred in. Mr. Mackenzie King, thereupon, moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 443, to amend the Senate and House of Commons Act.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Is it the pleasure of the house to adopt the motion?

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

On division.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

Speak louder.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

When shall the said bill be read a second time?

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Now.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

Next sitting.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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?

Some hon. MEMBERS:

Now.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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?

Some hon. MEMBERS:

Next sitting.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I would ask hon. members to moderate their voices. It is impossible to proceed with the business of the house.

Topic:   SENATE AND HOUSE OF COMMONS
Subtopic:   ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE TO GOVERNMENT AND OPPOSITION LEADERS IN SENATE
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July 9, 1947