July 3, 1947

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

I suppose the witnesses are obliged to come.

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George Russell Boucher

Progressive Conservative

Mr. BOUCHER:

Anyone who has had any experience in the administration of justice can assure the minister that, no matter what fees were paid to witnesses, they would not want to come. I do not think any witness will come to court simply because the fee is raised.

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Section agreed to. Sections 28 to 31 inclusive agreed to. On section 32-Reduction of imprisonment on part payment of sum adjudged to be paid.


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Harold Aberdeen Watson Timmins

Progressive Conservative

Mr. TIMMINS:

Is this not a vicious section, in that it seems to make the court a collection agency? A man receives a term of imprisonment for non-payment of a sum of money, and then he can pay part of it and, by so doing, receive a reduction in the number of days he must serve. Probably that is a benevolent thing to do, but it is hardily in accord with the manner in which we carry on British justice.

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

This amendment was recommended by the commissioners on the uniformity of legislation, and it seems fair. On what ground does the hon. member object?

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Harold Aberdeen Watson Timmins

Progressive Conservative

Mr. TIMMINS:

In many cases matters are rushed to court because the damages are not taken care of. The result is that a conviction is registered and money is to be paid. This indicates that the force of law would' be used to force a man to pay.

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Ernest Bertrand (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. BERTRAND (Laurier):

This reduction of sentence when the accused has been convicted and is subject to fine and imprisonment applies only to the fine being paid to the crown. It does not apply to a remittance of money when a magistrate orders an accused person to make a remittance. An unjust situation arises when a man who has been convicted and is subject to fine or imprisonment does not happen to have enough money to pay all the fine. He has to go to gaol because he cannot pay the $100 he has been fined, when he has only $50 with which to wipe out half the term of imprisonment. I believe this provision is fair to the accused man.

Forest Conservation

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

There is a. clerical error in the first line of section 32 and I will ask my colleague to make the necessary amendment.

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Ernest Bertrand (Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. BERTRAND (Laurier) moved:

That the words "that the said act be amended'' in the first fine of section 32 be stricken out and the words "the said act is further amended" be substituted therefor.

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Amendment agreed to. Section as amended agreed to. Sections 33 and 34 agreed to. Bill reported, read the third time and passed.


PRISONS AND REFORMATORIES

PROVISION FOR ADDITION TO LIST OF REFORMATORY INSTITUTIONS


Right Hon. J. L. ILSLEY (Minister of Justice) moved the second reading of Bill No. 377 to amend the Prisons and Reformatories Act.


PC

Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GREEN:

Would the minister make a statement?

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

Mr. Speaker, this bill was requested- within the last two weeks by the government of Nova Scotia, and it is rendered necessary by reason of the fact that the Halifax industrial school will soon close down. In Nova Scotia Protestant boys are sent to the Halifax industrial school and Roman Catholic boys to the St. Patrick's home. A new school is being established called the Nova Scoita school for boys, and- is to be added to the list of institutions mentioned in the Prisons and Reformatories Act. The act will provide that boys of either the Protestant or Roman Catholic faiths may be sent to the Nova Scotia school for boys. This bill was introduced because of a recent request by the attorney general of Nova Scotia.

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Motion agreed to, bill read the second time, considered in committee, read the third time and passed.


FOREST CONSERVATION

EASTERN SLOPE OF ROCKY MOUNTAINS- AGREEMENT WITH ALEERTA

July 3, 1947