May 15, 1947

PRIVILEGE

ME. ILSLEY-REFERENCE TO STATEMENT OF MR. ADAMSON IN DEBATE ON MAY 14

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Right Hon. J. L. ILSLEY (Minister of Justice):

Mr. Speaker, in the absence of the Minister of Finance (Mr. Abbott), and because I was Minister of Finance at the time, I rise on a question of privilege in regard to the charge made yesterday during the budget debate by the hon. member for York West (Mr. Adamson), that the Canadian dollar was restored to parity with the United States dollar last July as the result of pressure from the United States. In brief the hon. member claims to be reliably informed that a deal was made whereby in exchange for placing the Canadian dollar at par with the United States dollar-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

-the United States administration gave assurance that the British loan would go through.

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Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

I rise -to a point of order.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Sit down.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order.

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Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

I contend that this is not a question of privilege. The statement of which the minister complains was made yesterday in the course of a debate which is still current in the house. If something was said which requires correction, that should be done in the course of the debate. It is not a question of privilege.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I am of opinion that the statement being made by the Minister of Justice concerns a matter of public importance, and as such would be a matter of privilege.

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Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

With respect, Mr. Speaker, I suggest that even if it is a matter of public importance any such charge should be answered in the course of the debate.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I believe it is in the interests of the house-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I believe it is in the interests of the house and the interests of the public that the correct information should be given by the minister on a question of such importance.

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Progressive Conservative

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

On a question of privilege, Mr. Speaker, there were ministers of the crown in the house yesterday at the time that statement was made, and this is not the time for a statement to be made in reply. It should have been made then.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. member has no question of privilege. The point of order was raised; I have given my ruling, and I would ask the minister to proceed.

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

The statement made by the hon. member for York West was so absurd on its face that had I been in the house at the time-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

-which I was not, probably I would not have gone to the trouble of denying it. But to my surprise the statement has received wide publicity in the press and on the radio.

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Frank Exton Lennard

Progressive Conservative

Mr. LENNARD:

Rightly so.

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May 15, 1947