April 21, 1947

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John Sylvester Aloysius Sinnott

Liberal

Mr. SINNOTT:

This is one side of the house where I am not subjected to any party whip. On this side of the house we as Liberals can get up and speak our minds and meet our fellow members the next day without being criticized. If we do not get reform from this side of the house it will be a sorry day for Canada, because this is the only place from which reforms have come for Canada from the beginning right down to the present day. William Lyon Mackenzie stood up for the common man, the worker and the farmer, and the Liberal party still does that today.

I agree with the speaker who has just sat down that this country of ours which can produce five times as much as we consume will never stand for another depression such as we had from 1930 to 1935. There was only one thing we were short of in that period and that was dollar bills. We had hogs, we had cattle, we had butter, we had meat, we had

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coal, and all we wanted) of those things. The only thing we were short of was dollar bills, and the Liberal government will see that we are not short of them again.

I am sorry that the hon. member for Kamloops is not in his seat at the moment.

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An hon. MEMBER:

Give it to him just the same.

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John Sylvester Aloysius Sinnott

Liberal

Mr. SINNOTT:

I see he is over there now. It is clear from what he said that he was never a farmer. He said the farmers could not produce at present prices. But what about the consumer? You have to take him into account too. Compare prices today with what they were in the period from 1930 to 1935. In 1930 to 1935 hogs were selling at $4.35 per hundred pounds as compared with $18 today, and cattle were selling at $3.75 as compared with $15 today. I think it is a happy day for the farmer when he thinks of prices today in comparison with prices in 1930 to 1935. I trust that the hon. member for Kamloops, if he speaks again, will not delay the house for three weeks and then vote the opposite way.

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Robert Fair

Social Credit

Mr. FAIR:

A few moments ago I started out to say that God must have loved the common people because he made so many of them. A few years ago, someone on the other side of the house might have thought that God loved the Liberals because He made so many of them, but that is not true today because we see their numbers dwindling.

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George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Reconstruction and Supply)

Liberal

Mr. McILRAITH:

Where were you when the Cartier by-election was on?

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Robert Fair

Social Credit

Mr. FAIR:

The hon. member for Ottawa West might tell us how the Cartier by-election was won.

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Mr. HART I@

Is the hon. member interested to know how the Cartier by-election was won?

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LIB

Maurice Hartt

Liberal

Mr. HARTT:

I am pleased to inform my colleagues in the house that the by-election in Cartier was won on the basis of the policies of the present Liberal government. The member for Cartier was elected on the strength of the policies carried out by the Liberal party since 1921. He had definite and absolute approval of every item of the policies by this government. That is why I was elected. The people approved the policies of control and decontrol, the spy inquiry, and the government's financial policies which have brought us through a great war to great prosperity.

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Robert Fair

Social Credit

Mr. FAIR:

I want to congratulate the hon. member for Cartier on his maiden speech. I

now have the pleasure of asking him a question which he can answer at his leisure after he has had time to think it over. What would the result have been had the fifteen hundred names been placed on the voters' list?

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Maurice Hartt

Liberal

Mr. HARTT:

I rise to a point of order, Mr. Chairman. I say that my hon. friend is not in a position to prove to this house or to himself that anything wrong was done in connection with the lists. As a matter of fact, if he would take the trouble to compare the lists he would find there is a difference of 265 votes. Do not let him repeat the parrot cry of the Block Populaire and the communists.

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Robert Fair

Social Credit

Mr. FAIR:

If the hon. gentleman thinks I raised the question of the Cartier by-election he is sadly mistaken. It was the hon. member for Ottawa West.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

No; sit down.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Sit down.

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William Ross Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Order.

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April 21, 1947