March 28, 1947

REPORTS OF COMMITTEES


Third and fourth reports of standing committee on banking and commerce.-Mr. Cleaver. First report of special committee on Dominion Elections Act, 1938.-Mr. Cote (Verdun).


APPOINTMENT OP DEPUTY CHAIRMAN OF COMMITTEES OF THE WHOLE


Right Hon. IAN A. MACKENZIE (Minister of Veterans Affairs): On behalf of the Prime Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King) I desire to move, seconded by the Minister of Reconstruction and Supply (Mr. Howe): That Mr. William Henry Golding be appointed as deputy chairman of committees of the whole house. [Mr. Chevrier.l The essential reason for this motion is one of procedure. If the records of 1938 are referred to, all the precedents will be found. Section 3 of the Speaker of the House of Commons Act provides that whenever the house is informed by the Clerk at the table of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker, the chairman of committees shall take the chair and exercise the authority of the Speaker for twenty-four hours. It follows from this that the Speaker only, or the Deputy Speaker if the Speaker is unavoidably absent, can open the sittings of the house. If they were both absent at three o'clock the sittings of the house could not be opened. In order to avoid such an occurrence the house added in 1939 the following provision as section 5 of standing order 56: At the commencement of every session, or from time to time as necessity may arise, the house may appoint a deputy chairman of committees who shall, whenever the chairman of committees is absent, he entitled to exercise all the powers vested in the chairman of committees including his powers as Deputy Speaker during Mr. Speaker's unavoidable absence. After this new standing order was passed the leader of the house moved that a certain hon. gentleman be appointed. I understand that Your Honour has consulted with the leaders of the various parties and groups in the house. Mr. JEAN-FRANCOIS POULIOT (Temis-couata): I am delighted that this motion has been sponsored by the right hon. gentleman. On two occasions I had the honour of visiting the hon. member for Huron-Perth (Mr. Golding) and his constituents. Fie is one of the worthiest members of the House of Commons. He is a wise man; he is a good Liberal; he is a true Liberal; he is broadminded; he is devoted to his duty; he has judgment and tact; he has determination. He acquired these attributes because of his long experience in the municipal life of his community, first as councillor and then as alderman. I am delighted that the merits of the hon. gentleman are being recognized. He is the chairman of the Liberal caucus-*


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Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

-and he deserves everything he is getting. When a member of parliament shows judgment as the chairman of a party caucus he is eligible for any good post.

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John Ritchie MacNicol

Progressive Conservative

Mr. J. R. MacNICOL (Davenport):

Mr. Speaker, I want to pay my tribute to my good friend the hon. member for Huron-Perth, but I speak of him from an entirely different point of view, as a workman. He has been a workman for many years. He was trained in foundry

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and machine shop practice in an old pioneer company in his town which I myself knew of for many years. I take this as a tribute to the working class-I mean the sensible working class, men like the hon. member, men who work, not just talk. All the time he has been in the house he has demonstrated that he possesses good old fashioned common sense and I congratulate him.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

I think I should say to the house that it is at the suggestion of His Honour the Speaker that the government is making this provision for a deputy chairman of committees for the purposes mentioned a moment ago by my colleague, the Minister of Veterans Affairs (Mr. Mackenzie). When I spoke to the hon. member for Huron-Perth about accepting the position, it was pointed out to him that we had had a similar post some years ago. That position was filled by an hon. member of this house and an additional remuneration of $1,000 was attached to the position. The hon. member for Huron-Perth told me that he would be very happy to render any service he could to the Commons, but he felt that he did not wish to be remunerated for anything in the way of extra service that this position might involve. I just want to add mjr word of thanks and appreciation to the hon. member for accepting these duties in so patriotic a manner.

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GORDON GRAYDON (Peel):

Mr. Speaker, there are few men in the House of Commons with whom I have been more closely associated in a personal way than the new appointee of the government to whom reference has been made this afternoon. I hope that by now he is no longer infringing upon constitutional amenities and that his resignation so far as the Liberal caucus is concerned will be taken care of before he continues with our work.

I should like to add my word of congratulation to the hon. member. He has always been most fair with me in the House of Commons. He has assumed a great load in carrying on his duties, and I suppose he has been in the chair more often than most private members; at least my experience in the house would so indicate. May I conclude by saying that his generosity and the sacrifice he is making in rendering this additional national service is something for which he should be commended most heartily by all sides of the house. If after leaving the chairmanship of the Liberal caucus he continues to carry out his new duties as he has in the past, we will welcome him with open arms.

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Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. ANGUS MacINNIS (Vancouver East):

Mr. Speaker, I have asked my leader, who usually speaks on occasions of this kind, to be permitted the honour of congratulating the hon. member for Huron-Perth upon his elevation to the position indicated in the motion. I have known the hon. member since shortly after I came here for the first time, and our friendship has increased with the years. It is not very often that I find myself in complete agreement with the hon. member for Temiscouata (Mr. Pouliot), but I do want to say that I agree with everything the hon. member has said, and this goes for all the members of this group.

Mr. SOLON E. LOW (Peace River): Mr. Speaker, I do not think it would be wise to multiply words. I simply wish to say that we all agree with all that has been said with respect to the hon. member for Huron-Perth, and we will support the motion.

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LIB

Ralph Melville Warren

Liberal

Mr. R. M. WARREN (Renfrew North):

Mr. Speaker, I think if there is any member who has a right to say a word on behalf of the hon. member for Huron-Perth it should be the member for Renfrew North. The hon. member was my room-mate for many years, and you cannot live with a man for that long without getting pretty well acquainted with him. Some time ago I took it on myself to write an article outlining his history and sent it to the local papers. It was a fine story. I doubt if you could find a more hardworking member of parliament, a more honest type of citizen or a better citizen than will be found in the person of the hon. member for Huron-Perth.

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Motion agreed to.


EMERGENCY POWERS

ORDERS IN COUNCIL TABLED

LIB

Joseph Jean (Solicitor General of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. JOSEPH JEAN (Solicitor General):

Mr. Speaker, the other day the right hon. Minister of Justice (Mr. Ilsley) told the house that when the emergency powers bill was introduced he would lay on the table copies of the orders in council and the amending orders as they appear in the schedule to the bill. Office consolidations of these orders have already been circulated but hon. members will notice that the list of orders which appears in the schedule to the bill does not refer to the office consolidations but to the orders and amending orders as they were passed. So I now beg leave to table copies of the orders, in English and French.

Cartier By-Election

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DOMINION ELECTIONS

CARTIER BY-ELECTION-MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT UNDER STANDING ORDER 31

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Maxime Raymond

Bloc populaire canadien

Mr. MAXIME RAYMOND (Beauhamois-Laprairie):

Mr. Speaker, I ask leave to move, seconded by the hon. member for St. Maurice-Lafleche (Mr. Hamel), the adjournment of the house under standing order 31 for the purpose of discussing a definite matter of urgent public importance, namely, the illegal striking of at least 1,500 Canadian citizens from the electoral list of the electoral district of Montreal-Cartier, who will be deprived of their right to vote in a federal by-election which will take place on March 31, in the electoral district of Montreal-Cartier, because of the government officers' failure and lefusal to discharge their duty and of their striking from the electoral lists the names of those persons without any affidavit or through affidavits given under fictitious names in violation of rule 27 of schedule A of section 17 of the Dominion Elections Act, and their closing of the revision offices, while hundreds of persons were waiting to have their names maintained on the list, and the refusal to extend the time for such revision and increase the number of revising officers as provided by section 99 of the Dominion Elections Act, with the result that those citizens will suffer a great injustice.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I must call the attention of the hon. gentleman to the fact that while we have rules in this house which give to hon. members the privilege of asking leave to move the adjournment of the house to discuss a definite matter of urgent public importance in the hope that the discussion may lead to some correction being made, the question which is raised by the hon. gentleman is not of such urgent public importance as to attract the interest of the house, nor could any correction be made by the house at this time. If some people believe that they have not been properly treated in the matter of the right to exercise their vote I believe the proper thing would be to appeal for a remedy to our civil courts. I do not think I can permit the hon. gentleman to move to adjourn the house to discuss this matter, as we have already before the house several important matters to be considered. I am therefore obliged to refuse the motion of the hon. member.

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BPC

Maxime Raymond

Bloc populaire canadien

Mr. RAYMOND (Beauharnois-Laprairie):

Mr. Speaker, before you give your final decision, may I say a word?

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March 28, 1947