March 12, 1947

PRIVILEGE

MR. SMITH (CALGARY WEST)-EASTER RECESS

PC

Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative

Mr. A. L. SMITH (Calgary West):

Mr. Speaker, I am rising on a question of privilege. I hope, sir, that you will regard it kindly and that some of the gentlemen from the "amen" corner will regard it even generously.

Yesterday the Prime Minister announced that the Easter recess would extend from April 2 until April 14. I am asking that this

Privilege

matter be given further consideration. I am in this position. I must rent my house, which I have done, and the member for Calgary East (Mr. Harkness) is in the same position. The housing shortage being what it is, we could not selfishly close those houses. Last year we were in the same position. We were away from home just one day less than six months, attending the last session of parliament. On the other side of the picture it seems to me that the business of parliament perhaps requires that we should make this Easter vacation as short as possible. I am asking the government to reconsider the matter, because it does seem to me that with all the work we have in front of us we shall be occupied for another full six months and that we can serve our time a little better down here.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. SMITH (CALGARY WEST)-EASTER RECESS
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, my hon.

friend may or may not have noticed that I had asked the Clerk to place in Votes and Proceedings a motion with respect to the-Easter vacation in order that the matter might come before the house again before a final decision was reached. The motion appears in today's Votes and Proceedings and will be on the order paper tomorrow, when there will be an opportunity for the house to discuss the resolution. May I say to my hon. friend that the whole purpose my colleagues and I had in mind was to seek to meet the wishes of the great majority of the members of the house. It was, accordingly, suggested that the whips confer with the members of the different parties and it was understood that the government would be guided by their decision.

So far as the government is concerned let me make it perfectly clear that wTe are quite prepared to take either the shorter or the longer period, but what we are seeking to do, in leaving it to hon. members themselves to decide, is to oblige hon. members of this house so far as we can in the matter.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. SMITH (CALGARY WEST)-EASTER RECESS
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PC

Arthur Leroy Smith

Progressive Conservative

Mr. SMITH (Calgary West):

I appreciate that fully, and I was not suggesting for a moment that anything was being forced on us, but some of us are in a difficult position. I was in the same position last year. I did not get any expenses-not a nickel.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE
Subtopic:   MR. SMITH (CALGARY WEST)-EASTER RECESS
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MB. GIBSON (COMOX-ALBEENI)-REFERENCE TO REPORT IN VANCOUVER "DAILY PROVINCE"

IND

John Lambert Gibson

Independent Liberal

Mr. J. L. GIBSON (Comox-Alberni):

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a question of personal privilege arising out of a reference to myself made in the Vancouver Daily Province of February 27 last, in which I was referred to as "J. L. Gibson, Liberal, Comox-Alberni". I do not say, sir, that this is the most libellous

thing that has ever been said about myself, but it is probably the most untrue. I do not intend to take the same action that the premier of Ontario took against the Toronto Daily Star because I do not believe the courts would hold that it constitutes defamation of character. There is only one thing I will say. I am probably the unique member sitting to your right in that of all hon. members who sit over here I have no hope of ever being in your position, sir; of being a parliamentary assistant, a member of His Majesty's privy council, or in the other place. I will even go so far as to promise the Prime Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King) that if the electors of Comox-Alberni withhold from me their support at the next election I will not even ask him for a messenger's job.

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REPORTS AND PAPERS

LIB

Colin William George Gibson (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. COLIN GIBSON (Secretary of State):

I wish to table a statement with respect to translations of Hansard, Orders of the Day, Votes and Proceedings, Reports of Committees and Proceedings of Committees. With the unanimous consent of the house I would ask that it be printed in Votes and Proceedings.

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POSITION AS TO SUPPLY-INCREASE IN CONSUMER RATION

LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. DOUGLAS ABBOTT (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, I should like to make a brief statement on the prospective supply of sugar during the current year.

Sugar has been a commodity in short supply since 1942, when the Japanese forces overran and subsequently destroyed some of the greatest sugar producing areas of the world, and since that year the available world supplies of sugar have been subject to international allocations. The sugar committee of the international emergency food council, of which Canada is a member, has recently completed its review for 1947, and its recommendations on the 1947 allocations have been unanimously approved by the executive committee of that council.

The total available supply of sugar in 1947 shows an encouraging improvement over 1946, but still falls considerably short of meeting current world requirements.

Statistics of 1947 supply must necessarily be estimates, since the greater part of the 1947 crops is not yet harvested or manufactured. Within certain limits, however, we are now able to project our 1947 position.

On the most optimistic assumption relating to crop out-turns, the 1947 allocation to

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Canada-which for statistical purposes includes our domestic beet sugar production-will provide us with 93 pounds of raw sugar per capita, which is equal to 87 pounds of refined sugar. If, on the other hand, we take a conservative view of crop prospects, we will have about 86 pounds of raw sugar, or about 80 pounds in terms of refined. These figures may be compared with actual supplies of 71 pounds refined in 1946, 95 pounds as our average pre-war consumption, and 103 pounds per capita in the peak year of 1941.

In other words, we can expect an improvement in 1947 of not less than 12 per cent and probably not more than 20 per cent in comparison with 1946. But even this improved rate of supply will be at least 20 to 25 per cent below what I might call the unrestricted or unrationed demand. It will, therefore, be obvious that we cannot anticipate the elimination of sugar-rationing for at least another twelve months.

The wartime prices and trade board reports to me that current stocks and prospective supply justify an increase in the ration, and an increase of one-seventh or about 14 per cent, will be put into effect at the beginning of the next rationing period which is April 1.

In 1946 the standard consumer ration under the combined sugar-preserves ration was 7 coupons per quarter. This will now be increased to 8 coupons per quarter. Similarly, the industrial sugar ration which is now at 70 per cent of 1941 usage, will be raised to 80 per cent of 1941 usage. Biscuit and cereal manufacturers will also get a 10 point increase to 85 per cent, and bakers the same increase to 90 per cent of 1941 usage. Equivalent increases will be extended to "quota users" -that is to say, hotels, restaurants, etc. The home canning allowance of 10 pounds of sugar per person will remain unchanged for the present, though without holding out any firm promise I may say that if nothing untoward happens, the prices board hopes to be able to validate two or three extra coupons during the fruit harvesting season.

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PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. DIEFENBAKER:

Will the minister permit a question? Has consideration been given to increasing the present subsidies with a view to assuring a material increase in beet sugar production, and also to permitting factories to operate to capacity instead of the way they are operating at present?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

As my hon. friend knows, the increase to $1.25 was authorized by the sugar administrator through the wartime prices

and trade board. So far as I am aware, no consideration has been given to increasing that amount.

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BUTTER AND MEAT


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. STANLEY KNOWLES (Winnipeg North Centre):

May I direct a question to the Minister of Finance? Has the minister's attention been called to a press report to the effect .that certain government officials believe that to permit rising prices would result in decreased consumption of butter and meat, as has happened in respect to milk? Will the government accept or reject this advice?

Topic:   POSITION AS TO SUPPLY-INCREASE IN CONSUMER RATION
Subtopic:   BUTTER AND MEAT
Sub-subtopic:   PRESS REPORT OF EFFECT OF RISING PRICES
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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. DOUGLAS ABBOTT (Minister of Finance):

I have not seen the article and I have no particular comment to make on it. The government sometimes accepts the advice of newspapers, and sometimes it does not.

Topic:   POSITION AS TO SUPPLY-INCREASE IN CONSUMER RATION
Subtopic:   BUTTER AND MEAT
Sub-subtopic:   PRESS REPORT OF EFFECT OF RISING PRICES
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

This is the advice of government officials, not of newspapers.

Topic:   POSITION AS TO SUPPLY-INCREASE IN CONSUMER RATION
Subtopic:   BUTTER AND MEAT
Sub-subtopic:   PRESS REPORT OF EFFECT OF RISING PRICES
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UNITED NATIONS

March 12, 1947