August 26, 1946

CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

I thank the minister. I appreciate that I was asking a great deal of him to ask that his deputy go in there. But I was paying a compliment to his deputy in making that request because I believe he would be acceptable, perhaps more acceptable than anyone else, to the employees there.

Topic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   STEEL STRIKE-FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS-REQUEST THAT DEPUTY MINISTER ACT AS COMMISSIONER
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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

Much as I should like to do it, I must say that sometimes I wonder how physically I have stood up for the last five years, and I say that without trying to be facetious at all. I say it seriously, and I say the same thing of my senior officials too. I have not had a holiday since the war broke out; my deputy has not had a holiday since he has been with me, and that goes for many of the senior officials in my department. To ask us to run all over the country after grownup men who cannot conduct themselves like grown-up men is asking too much. After all is said and done, the trains are still running, and the aeroplanes, and if these people were anxious to settle disputes instead of trying to make martyrs of themselves or names for themselves, a great deal more could be accomplished. I passed through a similar diffi-

Labour Conditions

cult period after the last war. These men who think they are men of destiny are just ships that pass in the night. I have seen them pass in the night.

Topic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   STEEL STRIKE-FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS-REQUEST THAT DEPUTY MINISTER ACT AS COMMISSIONER
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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

I was just thinking of the minister's mixed metaphors.

Topic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   STEEL STRIKE-FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS-REQUEST THAT DEPUTY MINISTER ACT AS COMMISSIONER
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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

Some fellows think they are men of destiny, but they take themselves too seriously. If any one of us here died to-day the flag would fly at half-mast until the funeral was over and we would soon be forgotten. So do not let us take ourselves too seriously.

Topic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   STEEL STRIKE-FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS-REQUEST THAT DEPUTY MINISTER ACT AS COMMISSIONER
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

In view of the seriousness of the' situation will the minister ask the controller at Hamilton to see to it that the presence of the police is not used by the company as a basis for further provocative action?

Topic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   STEEL STRIKE-FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS-REQUEST THAT DEPUTY MINISTER ACT AS COMMISSIONER
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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

That has nothing whatever to do with the company. Responsibility for the administration of law and order does not rest on any organization, whether it be the employers or the employees. The maintenance of law and order is the responsibility, first of all, of the chief magistrate of the city-and let me say this, that I have never known the chief magistrate to be defeated on the basis of maintaining law and order. If you have not the courage to carry out the obligations of an office, you should not run for that office. The responsibility, after the chief magistrate, is the responsibility of the attorney general of the province, and next, the attorney general of Canada. The chain of responsibility is complete. For my hon. friend to say that the company should not use the police is to overlook that the maintenance of law and order is the responsibility of those charged with it.

Topic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   STEEL STRIKE-FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS-REQUEST THAT DEPUTY MINISTER ACT AS COMMISSIONER
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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

What about the violation of the wage control order by the company in giving triple pay?

Topic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Subtopic:   STEEL STRIKE-FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS-REQUEST THAT DEPUTY MINISTER ACT AS COMMISSIONER
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PRIORITIES ON DISTRIBUTION OF STEED


PRODUCTS ' On the orders of the day: Mr. J. 0. PROBE (Regina City): Mr. Speaker, may I ask the Minister of Reconstruction and Supply or the Acting Minister of Finance whether there is any arrangement by which the steel that is available in unprocessed form, such as sheets and plates, is being rationed equitably across this country by any organization of the government? I have received a number of telegrams on that and I should like to know whether equitable rationing is taking place. [Mr. Mitchell.)


LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Reconstruction and Supply)

Liberal

Right Hon. C. D. HOWE (Minister of Reconstruction and Supply):

What little

steel there is available for distribution is subject to priority allocation by the steel controller, and anything that is left after all priorities are satisfied I suppose is being marketed through the usual channels. But there is very little primary steel going on the market to-day.

Topic:   PRIORITIES ON DISTRIBUTION OF STEED
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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

There is a definite allotment as between various regions?

Topic:   PRIORITIES ON DISTRIBUTION OF STEED
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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. The hon. member has put his question and received his answer.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

Mr. Speaker, may I not ask a supplementary question? It was a fair question. I do not want to be shut off every time I get up. You take an obvious delight in doing it.

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I do not think that the hon. member or any hon. member has been shut off by the Speaker. The rule is very clear. The question should be brief and to the point. Moreover I should say to the hon. member that I will not permit the question period to start a debate on steel or labour conditions. The hon. member will have an opportunity to ask any question of the minister when his estimates are being considered in committee of supply.

Topic:   PRIORITIES ON DISTRIBUTION OF STEED
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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

I hasten to assure you, Mr. Speaker, that I did not wish to have a debate or altercation at all. I was simply asking for information.

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SALES OF LIQUOR

OMISSION FROM RETURN OF FIGURES FOR PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND


On the orders of the day:


LIB

James Angus MacKinnon (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. J. A. MacKINNON (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

Mr. Speaker,

recently I tabled an answer to a question by the hon. member for Mackenzie, (Mr. Nicholson) with reference to the per capita sales of liquor by provinces for the last fiscal year. The hon. member asked why Prince Edward Island had not been included. I was fairly sure of the answer, but I wanted to be certain. There is no public sale of liquor in Prince Edward Island. Liquor is sold there, I think I should say allegedly, for medicinal purposes only upon presentation of a doctor's certificate. There being no liquor control board in the island as there is in the other provinces, we do not have comparable statistics. The public accounts for Prince Edward Island do not show any figures for retail sales; therefore, we are unable to compare them with the figures of other provinces.

Emergency Powers

Topic:   SALES OF LIQUOR
Subtopic:   OMISSION FROM RETURN OF FIGURES FOR PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND
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PAYMENT OF PARTICIPATION CERTIFICATES

August 26, 1946