August 24, 1946


On the orders of the day:


PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. J. G. DIEFENBAKER (Lake Centre):

I should like to direct a question to the parliamentary assistant to the Minister of Finance, which possibly may be treated as a notice. In view of the increased price of sugar which is imported from the West Indies, will the government, with a view to encouraging production in 1947, consider granting similar concessions to growers and processors in Canada as have been ordered in the United States of America?

Topic:   IMPORTS FROM WEST INDIES-CONCESSIONS TO CANADIAN GROWERS AND PROCESSORS
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LIB

Robert Wellington Mayhew (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

Mr. R. W. MAYHEW (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance):

I shall take that as notice and give the hon. gentleman an answer later.

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HOUSING

CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION- RENTS IN EDMONTON


On the orders of the day: Mr. DONALD M. FLEMING (Eglinton): I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Reconstruction ami Supply. I have not been able to send him notice of it, because it is based on a telegram. Has the minister any information concerning an increase in rents being charged by Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation to its tenants in what was formerly known as the Jesuit military hospital in Edmonton?


LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Reconstruction and Supply)

Liberal

Right Hon. C. D. HOWE (Minister of Reconstruction and Supply):

I have no knowledge of any increase in rents, but I shall be glad to make inquiry and answer later.

The house in committee of supply, Mr. Macdonald (Brantford City) in the chair.

Topic:   HOUSING
Subtopic:   CENTRAL MORTGAGE AND HOUSING CORPORATION- RENTS IN EDMONTON
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VETERANS AFFAIRS


888. Departmental administration - further amount required, $484,923.


PC

John Bracken (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. BRACKEN:

Will the minister make a brief statement on this item? I think it would help us to expedite its passage.

Housing

Hon. IAN A. MACKENZIE (Minister of Veterans Affairs): The need for these supplementary estimates is brought about by accelerated demobilization. We had an estimate of a monthly demobilization rate of 38,500 per month, and the actual rate was 66,500 per month for a six months period. This has entailed additional expenditure. First, there is the provision for one year's free treatment. As I say, the men are coming home much sooner than we thought we could get them home. There is $6,000,000 needed as a result of the action taken this year by parliament in reestablishing the insurance principle. An amount of $1,000,000 is needed for war veterans' allowances, but the main item is in regard to the year's free treatment. Some additional amounts are required under the Veterans Land Act, but most of these items have been sanctioned by the parliament this session as a result of deliberations by all parties. Departmental administration has naturally been increased because of the men coming home earlier than was expected, but this cost should go down substantially next year. Broadly and briefly speaking, those are the main reasons for the increases.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

I think the Minister of Veterans Affairs should be complimented upon the manner in which he treats the committee,

. especially when we consider the action taken by other ministers when their estimates are before us. I have sat here many times when a minister has brought in an enormous estimate which he expected us to digest and pass without making a statement of any kind. I resent being thus treated as a cipher, and for that reason I want to say thank you to the Minister of Veterans Affairs for making the statement he has. Is it not true that we have passed the peak in the demobilization activities and that from now on there should be a considerable decrease in the Department of Veterans Affairs personnel?

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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

We have passed the peak in regard to demobilization and reconversion, but we will not reach the peak in regard to expenditures until about March of next year.

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CCF

John Oliver Probe

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. PROBE:

Is it not true that the staff in the department is being reduced? Has the minister any figures which will indicate when the peak was reached?

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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

Most of the staff is occupied in connection with hospital administration and treatment. We expect that they will be required until next spring, because of the provision for free treatment for all demobilized and discharged ex-service men.

(Mr. Fleming.]

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

How many veterans and dependents have still to be brought back to Canada?

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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

I am not sure, but I think about 12,000. I shall find out definitely.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

How many houses are still required for veterans? There is a terrific shortage of houses for veterans in Ottawa and right across the country. What is the present deficiency, and what are the prospects of meeting it?

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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

That matter is definitely under the jurisdiction of the Minister of Reconstruction. This year we have built over 2,700 houses, and then we have been assigned to construct 4,000 units for next year, which is part of the 8,000 units in Canada. We do not intend to intrude into the field of urban housing. Under the Veterans Land Act we want to make our housing a matter of settlement in addition to providing occupational opportunities by locating close to industrial areas.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

That does not answer my question. According to the minister's figures he will have 2,726 houses with an additional 4,000. That is out of a total programme of 8,000.

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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

That is right.

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August 24, 1946