Mr. MACDONNELL (Muskoka-Ontario):
Capital, yes. The question was asked, suppose a man in Manitoba sells his farm for $15,000, and wants to go across the line to live and take the money with him; unless he can establish that he has, let us say, arthritis and cannot live in Manitoba, or that his wife's mother is ill or needs the family's presence in Dakota, or give some other reason which will satisfy the members of the foreign exchange control board, he cannot take his money with him. Now I suggested-I do not know whether it is a good proposal; there may be a better-as a kind of token or pittance of freedom,-could not the board fix an amount-I made it very elastic-say of ten or fifteen thousand dollars, which a man can take as of right; and I said, if they find that is too much, let them lower it later on. The figures we were given from past experience as to the amounts likely to be taken in that way were trivial, something like a million dollars or less, so there is no indication that the amount would be large. The minister kindly said that he would take it into consideration-, and I was hopeful for the moment that this tiny scintilla of freedom would be left. But when we came to the end of the road the minister said, "it cannot be done."
I cannot remember the minister's exact words, but what he said in effect was that the government had to retain liberty of action; the government had to decide that. At any rate this is my interpretation, and this is what I mean by saying that when you get in the hands of experts you cannot blur the picture in any way; you cannot change the pattern, it is whole hog or none. They cannot afford to give that tiny relaxation because they would be admitting a wedge; they would enable >us to come back next year and say, "Give us a little more; we got back a little bit of freedom last year, give us a little more this year", and that would not be good. So, having spoken so much longer than the minister approves,-
Subtopic: STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR ORDERS IN COUNCIL PASSED UNDER WAR MEASURES ACT