August 2, 1946

EXTERNAL AFFAIRS

CONCURRENCE IN SECOND REPORT


Mr. J. A. BRADETTE (Cochrane) moved that the second report of the standing committee on external affairs, presented to the house on July 31, be concurred in.


PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. D. M. FLEMING (Eglinton):

The concurrence of the house in this report, I take it, will carry with it the adoption of the estimates in full of the Department of External Affairs?

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

Because there was a recommendation in that report for approval of those estimates. If that is not so I think there should be a clear understanding in the matter, because it was the feeling of members of the external affairs committee that there should be an opportunity for general discussion of the items and general discussion of policy in reference to external affairs when the estimates of that department should come before the house.

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Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

That is quite right.

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

Is it the assurance of the government-

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Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

Yes; definitely yes.

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

-that the estimates are not adopted?

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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

No. It is part of the report. Read the report.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of National Defence; Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

Read Hansard.

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Motion agreed to.


PRICES AND TRADE BOARD


HANDLING OF RATION COUPONS BY BANKS- BANQUE PROVINCIALĀ® DU CANADA On the orders of the day:


PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. J. G. DIEFENBAKER (Lake Centre):

Mr. Speaker, is the parliamentary assistant to the Minister of Finance now in a position to give an answer to a question I asked about the continuance of the right of the Banque Provinciale du Canada to handle ration coupons? Also I should like to know whether the Acting Minister of Finance is in a position to indicate what prosecutions, if any, have so far been instituted as a result of the ration coupon racket which was revealed, and whether prosecutions are contemplated under the criminal code.

Prices Board-Coupons

Mr. R. W. MAY'HEW (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance): The answer to my hon. friend's question is no, because the bank has not yet provided satisfactory assurance that the coupon ration system will be operated in accordance with the board's regulations. So far as prosecutions are concerned, I am afraid I shall have to leave that to the Minister of Justice.

Right Hon. L. S. ST. LAURENT (Minister of Justice): The hon. member may be assured that these prosecutions are being dealt with as expeditiously as is compatible with proper care. Instructions have been issued for the prosecutions of twenty-seven persons in three groups, and of six in another group; and I have been trying by long distance telephone to find out what is the state of the proceedings. There have been some pleas of guilty, and some pleas of not guilty with remands for trials fixed at different dates. The matter is being handled by competent counsel who are giving it diligent attention with the idea of bringing it to results as quickly as possible. Certain investigations are still proceeding, one clue leading to another, and though there are others against whom sufficient information might be available to justify the institution of proceedings, on the advice of the investigators proceedings against them are being delayed until the other clues are followed up to see if further evidence will not be developed which will implicate additional persons.

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Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

May I ask a supplementary question? Does not the right hon. gentleman think that when banks are given permission to act in this capacity it should be seen to that the employees receive sufficient remuneration to remove them from temptation?

Mr. ST. LAURENT: Though the banks are chartered by the dominion parliament, the administration of their affairs is under the control of their respective boards of directors, and it would be difficult for any department of the federal government to undertake to see that all those employed by organizations which derive their charter powers from parliament are properly remunerated.

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Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

I did not quite mean that. I meant that before they are given the right to do this the government should be sure that the people who will handle it are not just subject to temptation. That was the point.

Mr. ST. LAURENT: Even Adam and Eve in their terrestrial paradise were subject to temptation.

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PRIVILEGE

MR. GRANT-REFERENCE TO REMARKS IN DEBATE ON AUGUST 1

August 2, 1946