July 18, 1946

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GRAYDON:

And you are one of the worst offenders, too.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. The hon. member will admit, I think, that I have given him plenty of latitude.

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Arza Clair Casselman (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Progressive Conservative Party)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. CASSELMAN:

Until he was railroaded.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

That statement is unparliamentary. Order.

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William Irvine

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. IRVINE:

We cannot hear what you are saying, Mr. Speaker.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order.

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William Irvine

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. IRVINE:

Disorder!

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. The hon. member will admit, I believe, that a ruling by the Speaker is not a matter of giving Mr. Speaker's own interpretation, or his own ruling, to the house. Rather it is a matter of following the practice and.the rules of the House of Commons, as laid down. In my statement I took the trouble to quote May. I do not believe any hon. member will doubt the authority of May on these subjects. In his 14th edition he states:

Dealing with matters referred to a royal commission or with matters before a parliamentary committee or with matters within the jurisdiction of the chairman of a select committee or the authorities of the house. No question can. be asked regarding proceedings-

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GRAYDON:

"Proceedings".

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

-in a committee which have not been placed before the house by a report from the committee.

So far as this question is concerned, I have read also to the hon. member part of the proceedings of a committee where the chairman of the committee gave permission, not only to hon. members serving on the committee but to every hon. member in the house, to put questions before it.

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Karl Kenneth Homuth

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HOMUTH:

Mr. Speaker, have you given a ruling?

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Gordon Knapman Fraser

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FRASER:

Mr. Speaker, I think you have suggested what I should do. May I now ask you if I may place these questions on the order paper?

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. I have told the hon. gentleman what he should do. I consider the incident closed, and we should carry on with the business of the house.

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GRAYDON:

Are we to be permitted, sir, to appeal from your ruling on this matter?

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Gordon Knapman Fraser

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FRASER:

Mr. Speaker, the reason I asked- ,

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I have been very generous with hon. members. I told them at the begin-

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ning that the statement was not debatable and that there could be no appeal. I have given an opportunity to the hon. member for Peel to make a statement, despite the fact that this is not debatable. I think my generosity might be taken into consideration, and I would ask-

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Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GRAYDON:

Mr. Speaker, I desire to appeal from your ruling.

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James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Presenting reports by

standing and select committees.

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July 18, 1946