May 15, 1946

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

All anyone has to do is to look at the prices in any paper to-day.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Is the hon. member to be permitted to read-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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William Ross Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER:

The minister may speak, with the permission of the hon. member who has the floor.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Air. GARDINER:

The prices I quoted

were actual prices set bjr the board. It is not necessary to take Free Press prices for things that are not comparable. The prices are those set by the prices board in 1941, and there have not been any great increases from 1941 to the. present time in those prices. Those are all official, and can be obtained.

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

This paper is October

20, 1941. I do not think there is any need to read again the minister's statement in Hansard, but he said that in 1921 steak was selling at 48 cents a pound. I have just given a list of prices taken from the Free Press, and I have a few prices of other items at the present time: porterhouse roast, sirloin tip or wing roast, 47-49 cents per pound; rump roast, round steak, 42-46 cents per pound; sausage, breakfast style, 28-30 cents per pound; boneless stewing beef, 18-20 cents per pound. The same Winnipeg paper gives the quotations for cattle, which show that top beef ranged from $8.50 to $9 per 100 pounds at Winnipeg in 1941 when steak was selling at 27 cents per pound. The last market report I have is for May 9, which gives prices of better steers at Winnipeg as ranging from $12.50 to $12.75 per 100 pounds. Most items of meat in the retail stores have risen in price from 50 to over 100 per cent between that time and the present.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

That is absolutely

incorrect.

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

During the same time beef prices have risen from $9 to $12.50.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

The hon. member is

quoting porterhouse steak-

157u

Price Ceiling-Farm Products

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

If the minister wishes to ask a question, I will sit down and he can ask it. If he has not a question, I ask him respectfully to keep quiet.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I will ask it.

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William Ross Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER:

The hon.

member for Calgary East has invited the question.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I ask my hon. friend-

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

I did not invite a question. I said if the minister wanted to ask a question he should indicate that and not be constantly interrupting.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Will the hon. member permit a question?

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

I want to finish what I have to say. Briefly, the situation is that the retail price of meats has gone up from 50 to over 100 per cent, while the price of live cattle has risen from $8.50 and $9 per 100 pounds to $12 and $12.50, or approximately 35 per cent. Prices of cattle on the hoof have not gone up like prices of meat in the shops. If the minister wishes to ask a question I shall be delighted to try to answer it.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Was the hon. member not comparing sirloin steak with porterhouse steak?

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

Porterhouse steak would perhaps be worth five cents per pound more.

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James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Porterhouse steak is worth much more.

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Douglas Scott Harkness

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HARKNESS:

The minister is trying to labour the point and crawl out from under the remark he made in Hansard.

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May 15, 1946