May 3, 1946

IND

Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

One thing at a time.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. DIEFENBAKER:

That is right; one thing at a time, as the hon. member for Tem-iscouata says. The question I am asking is simply this. Will natural-born Canadians, provided that this bill is promulgated and brought into effect before the cenus takes place in the western provinces, be required to state their racial origin?

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LIB

William Henry Golding

Liberal

The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. Golding) :

Order. The section under discussion reads as follows:

This act shall come into force upon a date to be fixed by proclamation of the governor in council.

Shall this section carry?

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

Will the bill be proclaimed in time for the celebration of Canadian citizenship day?

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

Carried.

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CCF

Frederick Samuel Zaplitny

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. ZAPLITNY:

I submit that the questions asked by the hon. member for Winnipeg North and the hon. member for Lake Centre are connected with this section, because it deals with the date of proclamation and that has a bearing on whether or not the people of the prairie provinces will have the legal right under this bill to call themselves Canadian citizens, and whether or not that will be a good and sufficient answer as provided in section 3. I think we are entitled to a reply to that.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

I have given the reply. Section 3 is quite clear, that if a person is

asked as to his national status, hereafter he will not have to say anything other than, "I am a Canadian citizen."

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CCF

Frederick Samuel Zaplitny

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. ZAPLITNY:

Would the minister add to that statement, "regardless of what is on the printed census form"?

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

The bill is clear.

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Section agreed to. On schedule 1.


PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

A question has been asked about the inclusion within the scope of the commonwealth of Australia of the territory of Papua and Norfolk islands. Would the minister explain that?

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

It is carried over from the old act.

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IND

Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

They are British subjects. Mr. FLEMING: Could the minister clarify the situation?

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

It is the schedule suggested by the Department of External Affairs, and carries out provisions in the old act. Australia would want it, too.

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

The question was asked by some hon. members as to whether this involved the granting of citizenship privileges in certain cases to persons who might not be white, or be familiar with the English language.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

It does. The point arises in connection with section 28. It is to be noted that section 28 does not say that we recognize as a British subject a person bom in a country in the schedule, or a person resident in a country in the schedule. That would limit the status to a person from one of the scheduled countries. There is no such limitation. The status is recognized for anyone who gets that status under the laws of any of the scheduled countries. The United Kingdom is a scheduled country, and all colonials get the status of British subject by force of the United Kingdom law. Thus, the effect of section 28 is to recognize all British subjects, and not just a portion of them.

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

Another point might be clarified, namely the significance of the word "Ireland". What is the relevance of that geographical expression to the nation which now calls itself Eire. I take it that the reference in this schedule applies to the whole geographical island known as Ireland, including the northern six counties and Eire.

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

Northern Ireland comes under the United Kingdom.

Canadian Citizenship

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PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

And Ireland includes Eire. Mr. MARTIN: Yes.

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IND

Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

I do not believe in the discrimination of races. The commonwealth of Australia includes all the aborigines of the commonwealth. The Maoris of New Zealand, the Hottentots and the Zulus of South Africa are all British subjects. I am sure they will send a letter of appreciation to the hon. member for Eglinton for his fine speeches in that regard.

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May 3, 1946